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re: Orgeron and staff are figuring it out...(slowly)

Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by ByUselves
On a Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
3793 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:16 pm to
Didn't know he was leaving, he just got here. It takes time to install a complicated offense. It will only get better, especially with our young QB's.

Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3244 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:23 pm to
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I'd like to see a complete game on both sides of the ball before I'm fully on board, and Ole Miss offers a nice opportunity for that.


Hey everyone... Slackster is not fully on board yet!

Does anyone give a shite?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:31 pm to
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I'd like to see a complete game on both sides of the ball before I'm fully on board, and Ole Miss offers a nice opportunity for that.
seems like a lot of threads today have overlooked that this game is ole miss' superbowl. they are up for this game more than any other, and that sometimes includes the state game. the stadium will be packed and rowdy. the rebs will be fired up. i want to see if these improvements carry over or were they just an effort to salvage a winning season.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:34 pm to
Usually not a good sign when you and the head coach have to be pulled apart.

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:42 pm to
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Hey everyone... Slackster is not fully on board yet!

Does anyone give a shite?
Honestly, I'm not either. At least he's not ripping on posters for congratulating players, being hopeful, or blaming message boards for LSU's problems.

On one hand, I'm very wary because it's obvious 'Ole Miss Oregeron' made an appearance. That wasn't supposed to happen.

On the other hand, I've seen SOME good things and seeing them come to fruition in this game was refreshing. And, most importantly, when it looked like a blowout in the making like MSU the reaction of the team and coaches was completely different. Neither the players on the field or coaches on the sideline gave the vibe of 'we just can't do shite' or 'we really aren't good enough'.

At some point they said to themselves, if we try harder we can do this because we are good enough. It's a huge delta from the vibe in the MSU game.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12464 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:47 pm to

and the Donte drop on the pick 6. Auburn could have been the team on the end of a beating.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:25 pm to
Guice showed flashes of figuring out where to find lanes in the offense as well. He looked like he's getting back into last season's form.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Hey everyone... Slackster is not fully on board yet!

Does anyone give a shite?


Apparently you do.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:45 pm to
We will beat Bama and Auburn will too
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20760 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:13 pm to
Great win yesterday. Showed lots of guts and character. I think our offense is still s little too reliant on the big play. Seems like with the OL and QB being limited we continue to struggle to maintain drives. It’s more big play or bust. Hope we figure that out for the stretch ahead
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54599 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:15 pm to
as long as orgeron doesn't do any coaching and lets his coordinators coach the tigers will be fine
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16526 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 4:43 pm to
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On one hand, I'm very wary because it's obvious 'Ole Miss Oregeron' made an appearance. That wasn't supposed to happen.

On the other hand, I've seen SOME good things and seeing them come to fruition in this game was refreshing. And, most importantly, when it looked like a blowout in the making like MSU the reaction of the team and coaches was completely different. Neither the players on the field or coaches on the sideline gave the vibe of 'we just can't do shite' or 'we really aren't good enough'.


Well said.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48011 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:13 pm to
Hats off to the staff for keeping the players engaged and tweaking things schematically to improve From where we started to now. This was always going to be a bit of a rebuild, we only returned 7 starters from last year that's less than half of what we returned in 08. Right now we are playing our best and are close to playing elite level football. We need more consistency between the tackles and we need an intermediate WR who can get open and convert 3rd and 4-7 yards. Get in the gun to create lanes for Guice in the run game and use Derrick Dillon in that Welker/Edelman role converting third downs.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16526 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:27 pm to
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Hats off to the staff for keeping the players engaged and tweaking things schematically to improve From where we started to now. This was always going to be a bit of a rebuild, we only returned 7 starters from last year that's less than half of what we returned in 08.


I agree that this staff has done an incredible job over the last two weeks. Not sure what it all means going forward but they get an A+ on that stretch.
There is no reason to frame this season as a "rebuild." I can name eight returning starters on offense alone (KJ, Clapp, Toby, Chark, Moore, Etling, Moreau, and Guice - they all started and/or played extensively in '16)

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Right now we are playing our best and are close to playing elite level football. We need more consistency between the tackles and we need an intermediate WR who can get open and convert 3rd and 4-7 yards. Get in the gun to create lanes for Guice in the run game and use Derrick Dillon in that Welker/Edelman role converting third downs.


Couldn't agree more with you. We were not just good but dominant in the 2nd half yesterday. That was elite.

This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:27 pm to
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Get in the gun to create lanes for Guice in the run game and use Derrick Dillon in that Welker/Edelman role converting third downs.




I've said it a ton, but I hate our base offense. It takes limited players and gets even less out of them. We're far more efficient out of the shotgun, but we're seldom in it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16526 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:33 pm to
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I've said it a ton, but I hate our base offense. It takes limited players and gets even less out of them. We're far more efficient out of the shotgun, but we're seldom in it.


Just my opinion (and absolutely no data to substantiate it) but I think Canada wanted to grow the offense. But O panicked and interfered when the O didn't mature as fast as he wished it to. And now, we're probably 1-2 weeks behind where Canada anted us to be.

I think we will see it get noticeably better as the season progresses.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:37 pm to
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Young players are learning and growing up. New OC with a new system. Thin D line getting healthy. It was always going to be one of those years where we would improve as the year progressed.


agree 100%. if O can prove he can recruit in the trenches as a HC I think he can do alright and certainly better than Miles in his last 5 years or so. the FACT is, the state of Louisiana does not produce enough talent to field a top 5 team that wins titles. we have to get enough OOS guys and sign MOST of the top guys in the state to we challengers.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:47 pm to
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the FACT is, the state of Louisiana does not produce enough talent to field a top 5 team that wins titles.
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but it sure as hell doesn't if the best of it keeps going to Alabama. That's Orgeron's challenge. He was handcuffed by the uncertainty of the coaching situation last year and he lost some important ones, but this year we should see some indication of how well he does at fixing this major problem.
Posted by flyingtexastiger
Southlake, TX
Member since Oct 2005
1645 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:50 pm to
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Young players are learning and growing up. New OC with a new system. Thin D line getting healthy. It was always going to be one of those years where we would improve as the year progressed. I don't excuse Troy, but the reaction from this fanbase at every turn is to hyperventilate.



Post of the year
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:43 pm to
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I'm sorry that I'm not ready to say everything is hunky dory. I'm looking for complete game from this team. Is that so much to ask



Somebody please let the team know that slackass is withholding his support until the team plays up to his standards.
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