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re: Orgeron: "I think Steve Ensminger has done an excellent job."

Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Just curious, you know this how?

The offensive gameplan was shite, that's how.

If it was due to poor execution, the coaches screwed up by not getting the team prepared. If it was just a bad plan, well obviously that's on the coaches too.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:54 pm to
Played against best team in the nation?
That’s one.

If you can’t execute bc the man you’re playing is whipping your arse,,,, gonna be long night.

Why can’t you acknowledge this simple truth?
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:55 pm to
If performance against Bama is the measuring stick (and it should be) Ensminger is just a scapegoat. There's much more than just an OC which separates us from them.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:55 pm to
You think it was a good gameplan?
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:55 pm to
You're missing or losing sight of the point, p&g. The point is Ensminger does not have the skills to coordinate an offense that can enable the players to have a great shot competing against elite defenses, but there are offensive minds out there who do (Freeze, Briles, Riley, etc.......).
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Why can’t you acknowledge this simple truth?




Because lesser teams executed against this defense. So we either were ill prepared or had a shite plan. Either way, the coaches bear that responsibility.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Why can't you juts admit that the coaches failed spectacularly?
will never happen with him. He swings from O's nutsack.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:56 pm to
So if they prepared same as they did for uga and won yet lost to bama what’s that tell you?


Ah!!!!
Execution wasn’t there betwee the whistles.
WhT a concept!

Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:56 pm to
In the right scheme he's not whipping your arse!!!!!!!

Have you ever bothered to watch any of the elite offenses?
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:56 pm to
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So if they prepared same as they did for uga and won yet lost to bama what’s that tell you?



Why do we even pay the coaches? Nothing they do matters in your world.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:57 pm to
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With yall it never is. These things just happen randomly.


, exactly.

Alabama had 3 road shutouts in the past 3 years. Ed O and Steve E were on the hook for 2 of them.

Just a coincidence though.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Whe you don’t/can’t block and protect doesn’t matter who is calling the plays or what plays are being called


True, and very similar to Miles' Monday press conferences and his "not the scheme, it was execution".

Lets tell the truth:

Its not talent, LSU has plenty of talent.

This is the same offense as under Miles. Just ran out of shotgun with a few wrinkles.

The scheme is the same!

Change needs to be made. That starts with actually hiring a true OC that wants the job.

Blame needs to fall on Moffit as well. Talent is there but still losing at the LOS bc players aren't stronger and explosive enough. Time move from Moffit.



Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:59 pm to
I’m not a SE lover by ay means.
Fact he loves LSU means shite to me.

All I’m saying is until our guys beat Alabama’s guys in the trenches and individual matchups more plays than not it doesn’t matter who is calling the plays.
For fricks sake we are 9 games into the season.
It is what it is at this point.
That’s all I’m saying.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:59 pm to
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So if they prepared same as they did for uga and won yet lost to bama what’s that tell you?
That Alabama had an answer for our coaches and Georgia did not. It also proves that we have the talent to compete with Georgia.

If you truly believe that Saturday was mainly about execution, you're again putting the blame on Orgeron. The players are not disciplined enough to execute when they should. Who's fault is that?

And no. 104th ranked offense is not executing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:59 pm to
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So if they prepared same as they did for uga and won yet lost to bama what’s that tell you? Ah!!!! Execution wasn’t there betwee the whistles. WhT a concept!


The best coaches in the country rely far more on their scheme and less on their execution for this very reason.

There are offensive gurus who put up points and yards regardless of their talent, and that's because their scheme is that much better than everyone else. It's not because they're executing it to some perfect level all the time, it's because their scheme makes it easy to be successful.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8070 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Alabama had 3 road shutouts in the past 3 years. Ed O and Steve E were on the hook for 2 of them.

Just a coincidence though.



Are you serious?!
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
He said similar things about Canada last year. Until...

But I think he has to ride SE for a long while before changing OCs again. His credibility, what’s left of it, is at stake.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Just curious, you know this how? We lost? Didn’t score? Missed a chip fg? Threw an in tin endzone? Just curious
Because we did not have an offensive plan to accentuate our strengths and exploit their weaknesses. Supposedly the Oline simply doesn't measure up, but nothing in the game plan to limit that vulnerability. Because we're playing against Bama's most explosive offense in recent memory, but fail to understand the need to limit their TOP. Because we know that our chances of just lining up head to head and beating them at their usual game is going to be next to impossible, but we do so anyway. Because there was NOTHING in that friggin game plan that they hadn't seen from us before.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
5316 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 3:01 pm to
Ok, but we need the best O.C. available.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 3:02 pm to
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But I think he has to ride SE for a long while before changing OCs again. His credibility, what’s left of it, is at stake.


frick his credibility. It's already gone. We need to win and E isn't the answer.
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