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Opt out and NIL

Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted by TxTiger758
Member since Sep 2021
72 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:53 pm
So this is not directed at anyone just from some of the conversations around here got me thinking....I am curious how opting out of a season would impact someone who signed a contract for NIL. I wonder if they are obligated to play x amount of games or at least be on the team for a given amount of time.
Posted by PigDog33
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2021
762 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:55 pm to
No
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:56 pm to
I would assume that it depends on the contract.

That being said, an NIL contract that is actually contingent upon playing for a specific school seems like it would raise a ton of red flags for the NCAA.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:58 pm to
If you aren’t playing for a school the NCAA is irrelevant.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

If you aren’t playing for a school the NCAA is irrelevant.

It’s irrelevant for the player. It’s not irrelevant for the school if it turns into impermissible benefits.

ETA: I could be completely wrong, by the way. It just seems like logically the NCAA would still want to prevent the appearance of a true “pay to play,” given their history on this kind of stuff.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35279 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

I wonder if they are obligated to play x amount of games or at least be on the team for a given amount of time.
Its a company’s prerogative to structure the contract how they see fit. But are we talking opt out or injury? No company is going to structure a contract to not pay a player if he’s injured. Nor should they.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6380 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:08 pm to
I think most of the money is guaranteed but when kids like Stingley start opting out it will change.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35279 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 9:11 pm to
Are players still allowed to opt out? I thought that was only something last year. Did they extend it?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8666 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:36 pm to
Adding fuel to the fire. This NIL stuff is a mess.
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2635 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

TxTiger758


created a whole alt account to ask this?
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16639 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:42 pm to
Probably contract specific but if you aren’t being mentioned everyday by the National media I can’t see how you would be a big draw for endorsements
Posted by TxTiger758
Member since Sep 2021
72 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 12:08 am to
No. I have read the rant for a while but just created an account.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 12:23 am to
How is it pay for play if they are no longer playing?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9412 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 1:52 am to
Are you asking how it could be construed as “pay for play” if an athlete’s NIL deal gets yanked as soon as they stop playing for a particular school?

If playing for said school is a condition of the endorsement deal, then it is quite literally pay for play. Again, it may not matter to the player since he’s gone anyway but the university could still get in hot water.

I know it’s against the rules for an NIL deal to be contingent on signing with a particular school - e.g. a company saying “we will give you $XX to sign autographs if you come to LSU.” Although I’m not naive, and I realize these kinds of deals will almost certainly happen under the table.

What I’m not sure of is whether saying “we will give you $XX to sign autographs as long as you continue to play for LSU” would fall under the same rules. I would think that NIL deals would be structured based on a time period, not enrollment status, to be safe.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 2:39 am to
Would suck if a kid signs with a local company then opts out or transfers and he becomes useless to that company. While allure for these companies is that they play for a local fanbase that recognizes and enjoys them.
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