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re: Opinion on Coach O

Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298384 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

It’s not unfounded.


Then what was your ridiculous comment earlier regarding?

quote:

Until he wins the west/


It's good to know you're going to hate every coach we ever have until they win the West.

It's year 3, you're way too jumpy. If he can't do it this year a lot of criticism will be warranted
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:49 pm to
quote:


It's good to know you're going to hate every coach we ever have until they win the West.


What is this fixation with hating? Why do you guys equate criticism to hate? Legitimately asking here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298384 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

What is this fixation with hating?


Ive been asking you this for a couple of years now.

You'll grow out of it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:52 pm to
What is your evidence that anyone hates the coach, outside of criticism?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298384 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

What is your evidence that anyone hates the coach,


There's only about a half dozen of you. Everyone else is sane.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68255 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

What is your evidence that anyone hates the coach, outside of criticism?


When someone constantly downplays a coach’s accomplishments and overplays his failures, that generally means he has an axe to grind. It’s called confirmation bias.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

accomplishments

Link to hardware?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68255 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:08 pm to




Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:30 pm to
quote:


Orgeron gets an incredible amoun of criticism here.
The paranoia is ridiculous

Their numbers are dwindling. Their days of "Macking" the Rant are numbered.
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
Mississippi River Delta On Mars
Member since Nov 2007
823 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Orgeron gets an incredible amoun of criticism here.
The paranoia is ridiculous


Most of the criticism he receives is valid, but a fairly large segment here quickly makes an attempt to refute these legitimate claims.

I don't have any personal feelings towards Orgeron that are either good or bad, just like I didn't for Les Miles. Some posters allow their feelings towards a coach they've never met influence their perception and view of how well the program is being ran.

Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32130 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

Most of the criticism he receives is valid, but a fairly large segment here quickly makes an attempt to refute these legitimate claims.

I don't have any personal feelings towards Orgeron that are either good or bad, just like I didn't for Les Miles. Some posters allow their feelings towards a coach they've never met influence their perception and view of how well the program is being ran.




Extremely well put. Great post.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298384 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Most of the criticism he receives is valid,


If all you do is criticize, it's your problem and no one will ever take you as serious.

And that's what you do.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:27 am to
quote:

When someone constantly downplays a coach’s accomplishments and overplays his failures, that generally means he has an axe to grind. It’s called confirmation bias.



What accomplishments have been downplayed?
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:32 am to
And yet, Jimbo Fisher got hired and lost 4 games in his first season, and some on this board still wish we massively overpaid the guy. Obviously Orgeron was completely unproven, but tbh I don’t blame Alleva for balking if 70m was what Jimbo wanted from us as well.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:43 am to
quote:

There's only about a half dozen of you. Everyone else is sane.


it's very telling that posting objective facts about O's tenure is considered hating.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:43 am to
quote:

When someone constantly downplays a coach’s accomplishments 


what accomplishments?

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:45 am to
quote:

Why do you keep bringing up the Troy game?????


I keep bringing up the fact that Roger said Troy was more talented than lsu so he wouldnt have to address coaching problems.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:46 am to
quote:

Average is far more important than ranking.






averaging the 5th best class in the sec during his tenure
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:47 am to
quote:

you don’t understand that good recruiting involves more than just getting high rated players you are too far gone for me to help.


yet you'll be one of the 1st ones using team rankings as proof O is recruiting well.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:48 am to
I mean, I won’t, but go ahead. In fact I have posted tons of times that I think there are tons of flaws in the ranking system. I will, however, give credit to the recruiting he is doing on the d-line, a position group we have been sorely lacking at for a while.
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