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re: Opinion on Coach O
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:52 am to Terrific Tales
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:52 am to Terrific Tales
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I think we may have ended up losing to Ole Miss or A&M had he stayed
miles didn't lose to team that couldnt stop the run
A&m 2016 run defense was 84th in opponents rushing yards per game. 2016 ole miss was 117th in opponents rushing yards per game.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:53 am
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
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what accomplishments?
Orgeron's program was #6 in the AP final poll last season.
Here are the HC's who finished ahead of Coach O:
Dabo Swinny
Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Lincoln Riley
Brian Kelly
Ed Orgeron finishing 6th in his 2nd full season is an accomplishment. To say it isn't, is silly. Just silly.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:56 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:54 am to Terrific Tales
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mean, I won’t, but go ahead
so what do you use to judge how well O is recruiting?
watching the all 22 film from each lsu commit?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:55 am to Terrific Tales
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Jimbo Fisher got hired and lost 4 games in his first season, and some on this board still wish we massively overpaid the guy.
O had the 2nd most nfl draft picks in all of cfb in 2017 and lost 4 games. 1 of them was to a midmajor with zero NFL draft picks and zero 4 star recruits
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:56 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Orgeron's program was #6 in the AP final poll last season.
cool.
this just happened to be the year where the top ranked 3 loss team was ranked 6th.
we were the top ranked 3 loss team in 2012 but finished the season 12th.
for the record I think last year was a decent year.
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Ed Orgeron finishing 6th in his 2nd full season is an accomplishment. To say it isn't, is silly. Just silly.
hell finishing top 25 is an accomplishment.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:59 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
What I’m saying is I don’t tout overall team composite. When he lands a big player at a position of need though I am happy. He has done a lot of that in this recruiting class. And yes, I do watch the film. Not all of it, but some.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:00 am to Terrific Tales
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What I’m saying is I don’t tout overall team composite.
cool
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When he lands a big player at a position of need though I am happy.
what do you use to determine whether or not a recruit is a "big player"?
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He has done a lot of that in this recruiting class.
and when this class is signed sealed and delivered I will give O credit for it.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:03 am to Terrific Tales
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will, however, give credit to the recruiting he is doing on the d-line, a position group we have been sorely lacking at for a while.
he has been the dline coach since 2015. if that position has been lacking then he had a hand in it.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:04 am to Rickdaddy4188
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cool.
this just happened to be the year where the top ranked 3 loss team was ranked 6th.
we were the top ranked 3 loss team in 2012 but finished the season 12th.
Yeah, well that is just your spin. Below (in bold) are hard facts, not spin:
Orgeron's program was #6 in the AP final poll last season.
Here are the HC's who finished ahead of Coach O:
Dabo Swinny
Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Lincoln Riley
Brian Kelly
Ed Orgeron finishing 6th in his 2nd full season is an accomplishment (to sane people). To say it isn't, is silly. Just silly.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
Makes me laugh how Goofball Joe has to copy and paste his previous post and then put it in bold, like you missed something the first time.
Everybody knows where we finished at the end of last season.
Everybody knows where we finished at the end of last season.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:07 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:06 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Yeah, well that is just your spin.
that's not spin. those are facts.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:08 am to la_birdman
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Makes me laugh how Goofball Joe has to copy and paste his previous post and then put it in bold, like you missed something the first time.
the laughable part is he couldnt give a single frick about lsu.
he would be perfectly fine with lsu losing every game but Burrow being a Heisman Finalist.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:08 am to Rickdaddy4188
While I agree with that, O’s ability to recruit the d-line as an assistant coach still boils down to the head coach to a certain extent. For example, at the end of the day the HC gets to decide position allotment for the recruiting class, and has a guiding hand in where his assistant coaches are recruiting. It always felt like Miles was almost scared to recruit heavily out of state.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:09 am to Rickdaddy4188
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. those are facts.
I don't understand why posting facts are so damning to some fans. I really don't get it.
We all know we finished at #6. I think UCF was overrated but I do give O credit for getting to a NY6 bowl.
Overall, I think it was a better than average season. I want to see a great season.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:13 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:10 am to Terrific Tales
quote:agreed. although some of miles biggest signings came from OOS.
While I agree with that, O’s ability to recruit the d-line as an assistant coach still boils down to the head coach to a certain extent. For example, at the end of the day the HC gets to decide position allotment for the recruiting class, and has a guiding hand in where his assistant coaches are recruiting. It always felt like Miles was almost scared to recruit heavily out of state.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:10 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
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the laughable part is he couldnt give a single frick about lsu.
Agree. You call him out on his garbage and he turns into the kid that he is. He just loves to troll the board.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:12 am to la_birdman
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don't understand why posting facts are so damning to some fans. I really don't get it.
if you really want to piss the cult off just post our record against P5 programs that were good enough to not lose 5 or more games in 2017 and 2018.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:14 am to la_birdman
I think we got a little bit of special treatment from the media voters because I don’t think they thought we deserved the A&M loss either if I’m being honest. With that being said. We were ranked I think 7 before the A&M game and what 11 after? So yea we jumped but we also benefitted from some fortunate losses of teams in front of us. Funny thing is, if we had won the A&M game we would have gone up to 5th or 6th, would have been talked about for the playoff but probably not make it like Georgia, would have played Texas instead of UCF, and if we won probably still end up ranked 5th, one spot off where we ended anyway. It’s like the A&M loss didn’t affect our ranking at all.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:14 am to Rickdaddy4188
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f you really want to piss the cult off just post our record against P5 programs that were good enough to not lose 5 or more games in 2017 and 2018.
I'm not trying to piss anyone off, not saying you are either for that matter, but I actually remember you posting some objective facts about O and you hit the nail on the head with that post.
None of it was bashing, they were simply, well, facts. All of what you posted sums up my concerns as we get to the beginning of another football season.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:15 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:15 am to Rickdaddy4188
Some of them for sure
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