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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:34 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:34 pm to Tiger Ree
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I made one post on the SEC Rant about Jimbo's record. I then read a post that pointed out some things about Jimbo and what he had accomplished and realized that what the poster said was correct and what Jimbo had done was very good indeed. I was sold from that point on.
You on the Coaching Changes board last November...
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Three of his five wins this year were against Charleston Southern, USF and Wake Forest. The other two were a close win against Ole Miss and a 20-19 against a 4-4 Miami. Yeah, this guy can beat Alabama every year. To me there is a big difference between Les Miles and Jimbo Fisher.
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Don't worry about it. Since Jimbo is 5-3, 2-3 ACC you won't need to even think about it for a couple, few years if then.
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Jimbo's not coaching this year? I wondered why FSU sucked. Are they still ranked? Probably not since they are 5-3 and 2-3 ACC.
LINK
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You remember me from the coaching changes board? I'm flattered
It's hard to forget this gem of yours from the day of the Louisville game.
When Houston loses today what will be the excuses for Herman?
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:51 pm to nvasil1
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You on the Coaching Changes board last November...
I thought is was the SEC Rant and was wrong.
Hey, thanks for following me and remembering all my posts from months ago. I really am flattered and appreciate it. When I get home I am going to make a stiff drink and do a toast to you !!!
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It's hard to forget this gem of yours from the day of the Louisville game
Yeah, that's why I don't bet on football games. Who would have thought that UH and Herman would beat Louisville and then the very next week lose to Memphis. Crazy game !!!
Thanks again, you remember my posting history a hell of a lot better than I do. Next time something like this comes up, I'll just ask you what I posted last year.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:41 pm to Howyouluhdat
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At this point it's tiring to hear all the past bull shite talk.
If you get tired of the rehash of past events, stay away from the Rant.
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At least he acknowledges how bad he was
What the frick can he say when he won three SEC games in three years?
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Nobody is questioning whether it was the right hire or not.
Really?
What rock have have you been living under the last six months?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:46 pm to Tiger Ree
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Is it the Canada - only offensive Broyles Award candidate last year or the Tommie Robinson - the #1 recruiter in the nation for the past recruiting class - hire that bothers you the most? I'm curious as to which fire, hire or promotion Coach O has made that makes think he will have to draw up a MASTER? game plan in the future.
I'm not saying I have a problem with any of the hires he's made so far. I'm saying that O will only be as good as his OC & DC. And even though LSU is willing to pay top dollar, that doesn't mean that O will automatically be able to replace one top coordinator with another.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:54 pm to LSU GrandDad
Orgeron may work out but the hire was terrible at the time.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:57 pm to LSU Groupee
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There is absolutely no logically reasoning behind thinking O is going to return LSU to the top of college football. It's just not there guys.
Can I agree that this position has merit AND also say that under the circumstances there wasn't a better choice to be made?
I can agree with the instances folks point out of Coach O's shortcomings on his resume and trajectory as a head coach. But I'm still convinced that with where we were at the time promoting him was the logical choice.
Fedora went 8-5 with a QB taken #2 in the NFL draft and has no history of valuing defense. That wouldn't be a good fit at LSU. You can disparage O's resume but by any standard Fleck doesn't have the chops to get the keys to our program. And do you think the fan base would have been excited about another Oklahoma State coach who has shown eccentric tendencies (I'm a man I'm 40) and has a mullet?
So I agree O wasn't a homerun hire. I think Herman could have been but we couldn't compete financially (and I think he truly wanted to be there) and Jimbo wasn't really interested but wanted way too much money as well. O has made some good moves so far; maybe he'll be successful and if not maybe we'll have a better slate of candidates next time.
If Alleva would have fired Les after 2015 then maybe Justin Fuente is on our sideline...
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:00 pm to LSU Groupee
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Really? What rock have have you been living under the last six months?
In the context of this thread. Keep up. Even the O supporters realize better options are out there but weren't available at the time. the cards fell this way and I can get behind what he has done with the program thus far
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:06 pm to lsu2006
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What have I made up?
The statement I responded to
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:09 pm to j bro12
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I'm saying that O will only be as good as his OC & DC.
As is just about every single D1 football coach. Very logical assessment there pal
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:31 pm to LSU Groupee
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What the frick can he say when he won three SEC games in three years?
Yea you're right. And of course, there is absolutely no chance he's gotten better as a coach right? That would fk up your stupid arse theory.
Well maybe not. You were a shitstain since birth and havent changed a bit....CEO must really be in big trouble.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:33 pm to RedTigerRulz
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And of course, there is absolutely no chance he's gotten better as a coach right?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:37 pm to j bro12
Here is a completely random fact some may find interesting: Gary Crowton was once a Broyles award finalist.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:42 pm to Howyouluhdat
What were the much better available options out there for a HC??
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:47 pm to j bro12
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I'm not saying I have a problem with any of the hires he's made so far. I'm saying that O will only be as good as his OC & DC. And even though LSU is willing to pay top dollar, that doesn't mean that O will automatically be able to replace one top coordinator with another
Hmmm, I just don't even know what to say in response to this. But I guess if you say he has done well so far it's a start.
I would just say don't start crying about future events that have and may not happen yet as your OP insinuated.
WOW !!!
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:47 pm to CoachChill34
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What were the much better available options out there for a HC??
Gary Crowton. He has coordinator experience, and we should assume that he's gotten better with the passage of time, because that's always a given.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:49 pm to dandan
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Orgeron may work out but the hire was terrible at the time.
If he works out, it was not a terrible hire at any time. What a ridiculous statement to make.
Yeah, Duke hired MK as the basketball coach and he is one of the most successful college basketball coaches of all time, but at the time it was a bad hire.
WTF????
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:50 pm to Howyouluhdat
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As is just about every single D1 football coach. Very logical assessment there pal
The top coaches in D1 football are NOT dependent on both coordinators. That is simply false.
Saban
Urban
Jimbo
Herman
Stoops
Harbaugh
etc
etc
etc
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:51 pm to Mo Jeaux
Who??? ??
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:51 pm to MOT
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Here is a completely random fact some may find interesting: Gary Crowton was once a Broyles award finalist.
What were his stats that year? Did he win the award?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:05 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Even the O supporters realize better options are out there but weren't available at the time
so simple yet so true.
and of these better options, other than jimbo fisher, there really was no certainty that these better options would have worked out any more than coach O. some people just refuse to understand the reality of HC searches; established successful HC's are usually happy and well paid so they just flirt with other jobs to improve their contracts.
I was really disappointed we didn't land Fisher; really disappointed. not so much with Herman but I would have had hope and would have supported him. landing O was, at first, a disappointment but since his taking over the program I see enough to give me much hope for the future. another nick saban? another urban myer? another bear Bryant? no.
like I said to start this circus, I am now excited about LSU football and I think we are going to be an exciting team in the near future. and that's one hell of an improvement over what was happening with Miles and his program killing OC.
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