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one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:19 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:19 am
He really focus's on the DL. he's been knocked for being only a DL coach but any really top defense starts with the DL. his recruiting and he and pete Jenkins coaching is going to give LSU the dominate DL we used to have; you remember, the ones we had when we won championships. a great DL is NECESSARY to have a great defense and makes the LB and secondary's job much, much easier.
we got the best DL from TT to transfer and sit out a year just to be instructed by our guys so he can maximize his draft position. what ADVERTISING!
look, we probably aren't going to make the playoffs this year unless we get lucky and bama loses a couple of games. but if O and Canada can sign and train that elusive top notch QB LSU is going to be a contender again. I have not been this excited about LSU football since 2011; the decline is reversing fellow fans!
to all of you coach O haters; you know, the guys that hate his accent, the guys that refuse to accept he's improved since his last gig 15 years ago, the guys that naively think LSU can sign ANYBODY in the country they want to be HC, etc, etc I have just one sunday morning message for you....................................................................
we got the best DL from TT to transfer and sit out a year just to be instructed by our guys so he can maximize his draft position. what ADVERTISING!
look, we probably aren't going to make the playoffs this year unless we get lucky and bama loses a couple of games. but if O and Canada can sign and train that elusive top notch QB LSU is going to be a contender again. I have not been this excited about LSU football since 2011; the decline is reversing fellow fans!
to all of you coach O haters; you know, the guys that hate his accent, the guys that refuse to accept he's improved since his last gig 15 years ago, the guys that naively think LSU can sign ANYBODY in the country they want to be HC, etc, etc I have just one sunday morning message for you....................................................................
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:24 am to LSU GrandDad
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the guys that refuse to accept he's improved since his last gig 15 years ago,
There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.
Im not saying he hasnt improved. Im saying no one knows if he has.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 7:29 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.
This
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.
Im not saying he hasnt improved. Im saying no one knows if he has.
While I would I agree the jury is still out there is some evidence. His recognition that he cannot communicate to the whole team the way he communicates to defense of lineman for example, or his willingness to allow other people to coach and him lead.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:32 am to LSU GrandDad
Please make that your last post. I would rather a solid troll post.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:34 am to Elleshoe
Absolutely NO evidence since Les left. NONE at all 
Player morale is stagnant. Same old Offense.
Player morale is stagnant. Same old Offense.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:34 am to Rickdaddy4188
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There is zero proof of this.
proof of what? you need caffeine man. need to clarify your statement.
knowing your propensity for FACTS only; you are probably referring to proof that he has improved from his ole miss days. well, his record at USC and LSU is a damn good start.
that's the only games he's had the opportunity to provide us with proof. of course, that's not good enough for you and I understand that. but that proof if NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL THE MAN GETS MORE GAMES UNDER HIS BELT.
in other words, I have MORE PROOF that my opinion is correct than you have that it is not.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:35 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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or his willingness to allow other people to coach and him lead.
He's already doubled down on this. But imo, that doesn't matter. You want your head coach involved. If not, why the frick did we hire him?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:39 am to LSU GrandDad
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proof of what? you need caffeine man. need to clarify your statemen
What? I qouted which part of your post i was referring too.
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well, his record at USC and LSU is a damn good start.
Interim tenures are in no way running a program. He didnt choose the coordinators, he didnt run the offense or defense during either of his interim tenures.
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but that proof if NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL THE MAN GETS MORE GAMES UNDER HIS BELT.
Cool. You undertand what im saying.
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in other words, I have MORE PROOF that my opinion is correct than you have that it is not.
Only if youre dumb enough to count interim tenures as running a program.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 7:40 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:40 am to dgnx6
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why the frick did we hire him?
I ask myself this question everyday.
In what was essentially a 2 year coaching search, we ended up with a guy on our staff.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:41 am to LSU GrandDad
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his record at USC and LSU is a damn good start.
I disagree. He didn't recruit and build those teams over the long haul. He didn't assemble the current staff. I have no doubt we will be good next season. It's the down the road part.
Just going off recruiting rankings, the last coach left this team more talented than he inherited it.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 7:45 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:42 am to AndyJ
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dominate Omfg
my god, I made a mistake and didn't use dominant. I need to join mr rickdad and have more caffeine.
please accept (I should have said except just to piss you off) my sincere apology. I am going to mass soon and will do my best to atone for this grave error. I will pray for all of my old English teachers while i'm at it.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:43 am to LSU GrandDad
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his record at USC and LSU is a damn good start.
There are probably over 100 asst coaches that could have been named interim head coach with those USC and LSU teams and finished 6-2. 6-2 with teams loaded with NFL talent isn't awe inspiring.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:46 am to Choupique19
My biggest worry with O, besides the stigma he has of being a massive frick up in his last HC gig, is that his whole style is predicated on hiring the best coordinators.
Sounds good in theory, but that also means there will be a lot of coaching staff turnover because those coordinators will be leaving for head coaching gigs. So that means that O will have to constantly "hit" on these hires and if/when he doesn't, then that means O's coaching will have to cover for those holes and I have absolutely no faith in him being able to do that.
Sounds good in theory, but that also means there will be a lot of coaching staff turnover because those coordinators will be leaving for head coaching gigs. So that means that O will have to constantly "hit" on these hires and if/when he doesn't, then that means O's coaching will have to cover for those holes and I have absolutely no faith in him being able to do that.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:47 am to Choupique19
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There are probably over 100 asst coaches that could have been named interim head coach with those USC and LSU teams and finished 6-2. 6-2 with teams loaded with NFL talent isn't awe inspiring.
Its amazing what people label as," running a program"
If this constitutes running a program...
Not running the offense.
Not running the defense.
Not choosing schemes.
Not choosing the coordinator.
Then ive been running programs all my life
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:48 am to Broski
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My biggest worry with O, besides the stigma he has of being a massive frick up in his last HC gig, is that his whole style is predicated on hiring the best coordinator
Because our last coach was TOO HANDS ON, a portion of our fan base has convinced themselves that we need a coach that is hands off on both sides of the ball.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:51 am to Rickdaddy4188
I mean, it may work, I'm not saying it won't. However, anybody that feels confident in O is only doing so because it's someone other than Miles.
Other than that, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire.
Other than that, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Because our last coach was TOO HANDS ON
That's what I'm talking. He said all the right things the fans wanted to hear. After he got hired he said he would still be involved in the defense, he's never been a DC. He said the dline were his babies.
I have no issues with it. But let's stop with the, he's going to let his coaches coach bullshite as a reason LSU is going to go on an even better run under him.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:54 am to Rickdaddy4188
Yes there is proof of this.
Coach Orgeron took over at USC and guided them to a 6-2 record after boy wonder (Kiffin) was fired. Orgeron was in the running for that job but Pat Hayden being the genius he is followed his disasterous Kiffin hire with the hiring of Steve "the drunk" Sarkisian.
Orgeron once again took over at LSU under dire circumstances and refocused the team and staff. Not to mention getting rid of one of the biggest problems on the staff Cam Cameron. Orgeron managed to go 6-2 at LSU and was competitive in the two losses. You can be critical of the losses but in all fairness going 12-4 under those circumstances isn't easy no matter what you think.
Then Orgeron and the LSU staff destroyed Louisville and their "brilliant" head coach along with their Heisman QB in the bowl game.
After the season ended Orgeron and staff put together the #7 recruiting class in the country with 2 of the Top 10 players and 5 of the Top 30 from Texas and flipping some key players from OU and Texas.
Then Orgeron hired Matt Canada as OC and Robinson from USC (who said he came only because of Orgeron).
In addition, LSU held on to Aranda and made him one of the top paid assistants (if not #1) in the country.
Now our recruiting is going well again both in state and out and yes it's early but recruiting looks like it hasn't slowed down.
Considering all these positives if you still say that there is no indication that Orgeron has improved since his Ole Miss days then you just don't want to see it.
Personally, I am happy LSU didn't hire Tom Herman as his resume' is built on 2 years of schedules full of patsies and cream puffs. What also concerns some UT alumns (which I work with) is the fact that Oreron did what he did in recruiting Texas when Tom Herman supposedly had so many strong contacts in Texas, especially in Houston. The loss of K'Lavon Chaison really shocked them as he was considered a lock by UT.
Orgeron deserves our support and so far he has done nothing but good moves.
Coach Orgeron took over at USC and guided them to a 6-2 record after boy wonder (Kiffin) was fired. Orgeron was in the running for that job but Pat Hayden being the genius he is followed his disasterous Kiffin hire with the hiring of Steve "the drunk" Sarkisian.
Orgeron once again took over at LSU under dire circumstances and refocused the team and staff. Not to mention getting rid of one of the biggest problems on the staff Cam Cameron. Orgeron managed to go 6-2 at LSU and was competitive in the two losses. You can be critical of the losses but in all fairness going 12-4 under those circumstances isn't easy no matter what you think.
Then Orgeron and the LSU staff destroyed Louisville and their "brilliant" head coach along with their Heisman QB in the bowl game.
After the season ended Orgeron and staff put together the #7 recruiting class in the country with 2 of the Top 10 players and 5 of the Top 30 from Texas and flipping some key players from OU and Texas.
Then Orgeron hired Matt Canada as OC and Robinson from USC (who said he came only because of Orgeron).
In addition, LSU held on to Aranda and made him one of the top paid assistants (if not #1) in the country.
Now our recruiting is going well again both in state and out and yes it's early but recruiting looks like it hasn't slowed down.
Considering all these positives if you still say that there is no indication that Orgeron has improved since his Ole Miss days then you just don't want to see it.
Personally, I am happy LSU didn't hire Tom Herman as his resume' is built on 2 years of schedules full of patsies and cream puffs. What also concerns some UT alumns (which I work with) is the fact that Oreron did what he did in recruiting Texas when Tom Herman supposedly had so many strong contacts in Texas, especially in Houston. The loss of K'Lavon Chaison really shocked them as he was considered a lock by UT.
Orgeron deserves our support and so far he has done nothing but good moves.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 7:59 am
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