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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU

Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:30 pm to
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he lets the position coaches coach, put their own players in when they feel it is best, i.e. he lets them use their specific expertise to the betterment of the team
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Which also makes for convenient passing of responsibility. See Tiger Ree's post about the Florida game and the RB coach.


Did you read the guy's post that you responded to? How does letting position coaches be responsible for what happens mean convenient passing of responsibility.

Why don't you tell ME and not the poster quoted what was not true about anything I posted in regards to the Florida game.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:34 pm to
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was a top notch hire, O was not.


but you hope Coach O is successful because it means LSU is successful, RIGHT ???
Posted by scott2274
Member since Jan 2009
317 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:38 pm to
Hey bratski u are incorrect about your statement "there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire". Have u ever been to a practice since Coach O was hired? I doubt u have. It took all of one practice this spring to convince me of the opposite of your statement. U can see and feel the excitement Coach O has brought to the program. Another thing that I was impressed with is the structure and organization he has implemented. From the team meetings before practice to the actual practices. U don't know unless u see it for yourself. Coach O has restored excitement and organization to our program. Exactly what we were lacking when he was hired. Don't let the spring game fool u. Coach O is in total control. And that's a good thing.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:39 pm to
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What the frick are you even talking about now? Hiring Canada and Robinson has nothing to do with handing the ball off to Guice and Fournette last season


Jesus dude, I was responding to YOUR post. You said LSU under O didn't perform well against a team with a pulse of a rushing defense. Now you don't know what the frick I am talking about mentioning that LSU has a new OC and RUNNING BACKS coach.

Damn, posting that picture of Macho Man totally fricked you and Rich-Momma up. I would see if there was a picture of him shirtless but I'm afraid your heads would explode.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:45 pm to
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thinks that it's Juluke's fault that Guice went the wrong way


Is it not the RB coaches fault when after a timeout on the most important play (final play) of the game the RB goes the wrong way. Is that acceptable in all of the other big games in the future?

Juluke was fired because of that play, missing out on Cam Akers among other recruiting misses.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:51 pm to
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You've made an arse of yourself in this thread


I think you keep saying stuff like this because I have made an arse of you. I'm sorry, but it is just too damn easy.

If it makes you feel better, I'll try to go easier on you in the future.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:54 pm to
Well that is complete BS
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10353 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:55 pm to
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I didn't realize our sophomore, SEC leading rusher, RB needed his position coach out on the field to tell him which way to go, like it's pee wee football.

So you're saying it wasn't Juluke's fault Guice went the wrong way. Well was it Orgeron's fault? Because you sure have been holding this loss over him. A loss in which we dominated every phase of the game except for turnovers and one big play from them.

If Guice goes left then LSU fans everywhere are just relieved to get the win over an extremely emotional and fired up Florida team, and Orgeron catches no flack for this game. He goes straight ahead, gets tackled, and some fans are still pissed at Orgeron.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7856 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:58 pm to
No , it was time for Miles to be fired. He was his own worst enemy and while I was in his corner the majority of his time , he lost me eventually by not doing the things he promised. I ran out of patience.

Orgeron's resume alone should not have had him in contention. Change his name to Peveto and apply the same resume . Peveto was loved by his players and was a helluva recruiter , yet he too should not be the head coach at LSU.
The double standard and hypocrisy when criticizing Miles and applauding Orgeron is further infuriating. Orgeron and his braintrust Ponamsky launched an effective media campaign by ingratiating themselves and thusly ensuring no balanced coverage . They brought back former players , this ensuring no outside criticism. They read the message boards and made some fan friendly moves. Orgeron does play the good ole boy game pretty damn well and if he can gameplan football as well as he plays politics then LSU will win a lot of games. Unfortunately , I don't see any evidence of this as his resume is garbage.
The interim success means nothing to me. It's like you giving me the keys to your life and I get to take credit for anything and everything you built (assuming you have anything to take credit for ). I can take over the bills, your job, your family , etc...even use your gumbo recipe and claim it all as mine. Maybe I even do it better , but I didn't have a damn thing to do with building Your successes or failures.
I don't like the guy. The reasons fans give in support of him , only make it worse when you see the level of denial necessary.

This hire was a failure.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:58 pm to
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He did not earn a chance to be handed a top 5 CFB job.


Well he is one at LSU, so there is that. Constantly knocking him or even the hire which equates to knocking him does no good for the LSU football program.

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Funny coming from you


Funny is someone saying a head coach hires good assistants to hide their deficiencies. That's some classic ranter shite right there.

He has no desire to win games, he only hired assistants so people won't know he can't coach. ha Ha ha, You just can't make this shite up. And it's FREE !!!
Posted by TexAgChill
Member since Mar 2015
2450 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:58 pm to
Dude, this is right. .
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6643 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:01 pm to
All that you said and I bet CEO wont have a good a record as the shitty coach you guys call Les Miles
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:04 pm to

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Everybody associated with the program, including alumni like Marcus Allen, wanted to hire Coach O.
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Then why didn't they go after him when they hired Helton? And why did Syracuse say thanks, but no thanks when O wanted an interview there?


Because Haden was the AD. You didn't read my post where it was quoted - not by me - that Haden was never going to hire CEO regardless of what the alumni, players and staff wanted.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:08 pm to
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I have no words


Everybody would be very relieved but know it's not true.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10353 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:15 pm to
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prplngldtigr

Well for the record I wasn't a fan of the process and he wasn't my top choice either. But neither Herman nor Jimbo were coming and I wouldn't say any other candidates out there were world beaters.

I disagree that his resume is garbage but am not going to spend any time trying to convince you of that. It seems like a serious personal vendetta you have against the guy.



ETA: To clarify though... You simply said "No" in answer to my question. So are you saying you would not prefer to have Miles back than to go forward with Orgeron?
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Well that is complete BS


Your first time on the Tiger Rant?

Do a search for Jamarkus Russell, Ben Simmons, DJ Welter, Cam Cameron, John Chavis among many, many others, then come tell me about my post being complete BS.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215991 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Not liking the hire has nothing to do with the players dumbfrick.















I am SURE of one thing.. You in section 405 have BOOED the team and coaching.... YOU NEVER BOO at A college game.... I KNOW you have done this just because of the way you post....
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:29 pm to
You have no fricking clue what I've done. Now go change your shite bag.
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:30 pm to
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.


[quote]Im not saying he hasnt improved. Im saying no one knows if he has.


Well if NO ONE knows, then you cannot say there is zero proof and no shred of evidence. Because as you say unequivocally NO ONE KNOWS.
As usual no logic or reasoning, just blind arrogance and bigoted useless blathering.
Fuc off.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:32 pm to
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It's like you giving me the keys to your life and I get to take credit for anything and everything you built (assuming you have anything to take credit for ). I can take over the bills, your job, your family , etc...even use your gumbo recipe and claim it all as mine. Maybe I even do it better , but I didn't have a damn thing to do with building Your successes or failures.


This board never fails to deliver. ha Ha Ha

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I don't like the guy


No shite ??? I couldn't tell.

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The reasons fans give in support of him , only make it worse when you see the level of denial necessary.


The denial of him taking over for a 4-7 Kiffin and going 6-2 including a win over the #4 team in the nation?

The denial of him hiring a Broyles Award candidate as OC?

The denial of him hiring the best recruiter in the country for this signing class as RC/RB coach?

the denial of him extending Dave Arandas contract?

Yeah, those are horribly terrible things. Did I miss anything? Is there something else I am supposed to be in denial about? Any help will be much appreciated.
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