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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU

Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:16 am to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:16 am to
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he guys that refuse to accept he's improved since his last gig 15 years a


Wouldn't you think that if he was so improved since that terrible time for him, he would have at lease been able to get a DC job? O couldn't get the ULL job or any of the other countless jobs that have come open in the last tens at even minor schools. Truth be known, if Alleva hadn't hired him as head coach at LSU he would have been searching for another DL job.

No one hates O and every LSU fan wants him to be successful, but lets get real. Jumping from the two successful offensive minded head coaches we were after to a DL coach, any DL coach, is a what the frick is going on moment!

It's some funny shite to see guys who have been saying LSU has the talent to be in the playoffs each year if not for Les now suggesting 9 to 10 wins would be acceptable or we are going to have to wait a few years to get to the playoffs.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23067 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:16 am to
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Its isnt and only someone with little cfb knowledge would say it us.
have you ever done either?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27865 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:17 am to
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Actually I think his 12-4 record in his last two interim gigs is pretty good evidence.

That's the same winning percentage that got Miles on the hot seat in 2015 and eventually fired.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:18 am to
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Actually I think his 12-4 record in his last two interim gigs is pretty good evidence


Holy shite.

I had no idea that I have proof that im a good head coach.


I have also never run a offense at lsu
I nave also never run a defense at lsu
I have also never chosen the schemes at lsu.
I have also not chosen the coordinators at lsu.


Who knew i was so qualified to be lsu's head coach.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:20 am to
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Its amazing what people label as," running a program" If this constitutes running a program... Not running the offense.
Not running the defense.
Not choosing schemes.
Not choosing the coordinator.

Then ive been running programs all my life


Les Miles would have said he didn't run the defense, offense or special teams. I don't know why this seems so important for a reason for CEO to not be head coach.

Les Miles throttled the offense. CEO letting Canada run things could be a great thing for LSU.

Your last point is moot because Coach O did choose to let a coordinator go and promote another to take over while he was still the interim coach.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:21 am to
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have you ever done either?





I have run as many successful programs as ed Orgeron.
I have had as many successful defensive coordinator jobs.


Ed Orgeron and i have both never run a successful program.

When Ed Orgeron was picked as interim head coach at usc both coordinators had been at usc for a total of 4 games.

When he was chosen to be lsu's head coach fave aranda had been on the job for 4 games. Ed orgeron was the only choice.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:22 am to
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Les Miles would have said he didn't run the defense, offense or special teams. I don't know why this seems so important for a reason for CEO to not be head coac


Ha ha. Youre the same dumbass that doesnt give tom herman credit for his 1st year at houston because it wasnt his team and in the next post use ed Orgeron's interum tenures as proof he is a good coach.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:24 am to
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.

lol

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:24 am to
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That's the same winning percentage that got Miles on the hot seat in 2015 and eventually fired.


Exactly.There was a poster yesterday that said Lsu played very well under Orgeron last year. So now i guess losing at home to 14 point underdogs that are missingbtons of defensive starters is playing well. Having Chattanooga be more productive against bama than we were is now considered playing very well.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23067 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:26 am to
so the answer is no - when you say only someone with little football knowledge would comment on the difficulty of running a football program the size and scope of LSU and USC for 8 games each you actually are the one with dick zero experience.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:26 am to
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lol


There isnt. Being an interim coach isnt running a program.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:28 am to
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o the answer is no - when you say only someone with little football knowledge would comment on the difficulty of running a football program the size and scope of LSU and USC for 8 games each you actually are the one with dick zero experience.






Because not having a hand in the offense or defense, not choosing tye coordinators, and not choosing the schemes isnt running a program dumbass. A 9 year old girl knows this.


Thats what you football ignorant posters dont understand.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:29 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:32 am to
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However, anybody that feels confident in O is only doing so because it's someone other than Miles.

Other than that, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire.


I'm confident in O because of the way the LSU team looked and played after he took over. And that was with a TE's coach running the offense. Now the only Broyles Award candidate on offense in the nation last season is the offensive coordinator of LSU.

Dave Aranda was already the defensive coordinator and has signed an extension.

The #1 recruiter in the nation last season = Tommie Robinson was brought in as Asst. Head Coach/Running Backs/Recruiting Coordinator.

there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire my arse. If your not impressed with the moves Coach O has made you are in a very, very small minority.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:33 am to
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Wouldn't you think that if he was so improved since that terrible time for him, he would have at lease been able to get a DC job? O couldn't get the ULL job or any of the other countless jobs that have come open in the last tens at even minor schools. Truth be known, if Alleva hadn't hired him as head coach at LSU he would have been searching for another DL job. 



These are the same dumbasses that say miles not being offered a HC job means he sucked as a coach. If thats true what does it say about our current head coach? He wasnt even getting Coordinator offers.
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No one hates O and every LSU fan wants him to be successful, but lets get real. Jumping from the two successful offensive minded head coaches we were after to a DL coach, any DL coach, is a what the frick is going on moment! 
exactly. Our head coach has,LITERALLY, the worst resume of any sec head coach.
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It's some funny shite to see guys who have been saying LSU has the talent to be in the playoffs each year if not for Les now suggesting 9 to 10 wins would be acceptable or we are going to have to wait a few years to get to the playoffs


I had a poster tell me that Miles left O a steaming pile of shite.
Miles was deemed an underachiever considering all the talent and 7 months later posters are saying lsu needs to rebuild.
Its laughable.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:34 am to
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But let's stop with the, he's going to let his coaches coach bullshite as a reason LSU is going to go on an even better run under him.


It will never stop and shouldn't. I would imagine many successful coaches were so because they were able to hire great coordinators while letting them coordinate. If not why would teams even need coordinators?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:35 am to
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there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire my arse. I


Has Ed orgeron ever had any head coaching success WITHOUT the interim tag?
Has Ed Orgeron ever proven he can formulate a defensive gameplan?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:37 am to
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It will never stop and shouldn't. I would imagine many successful coaches were so because they were able to hire great coordinators while letting them coordinate. If not why would teams even need coordinators?


There isnt a great coach in cfb that doesnt have a hand in one side of the ball. Not one. You clearly have the football knowledge of a shoe.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23067 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:39 am to
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Because not having a hand in the offense or defense,
he didn't?
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not choosing tye coordinators
he didn't?
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isnt running a program dumbass
is that all there is to running a program?
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Thats what you football ignorant posters
but you just said you've never been a head coach or an interim head coach? what makes you so knowledgeable? i can't wait to hear this.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17801 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:41 am to
So I see this thread has devolved into another rant vs. rickdaddy show.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:41 am to
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He really focus's


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