While this is true, I don't think this is negligence per se by Alleva. Now, before you crucify me, I (and I'm not alone) believe Alleva did this on purpose so we would be stuck with him to "give him time" to do it his way, knowing that his (Alleva's) success and legacy will be almost exclusively based on this hire. He did this to protect himself from the very thing that is being talked about now - an early jettison of O, clearly a bad move from the beginning, and with it Alleva's legacy.

So, if this is true, it isn't negligence. It's malfeasance. Even if we can't prove it - either negligence or malfeasance is certain under the legal principle of res ipsa loquitur and since he could be fired for either, he should be immediately.

I remain categorically against firing O until Alleva (and possibly Alexander) are fired so they do not pick his replacement.

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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:06 am to Jack Daniel

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It really clarifies how bad Alleva is. First mistake was after performing a 4 month coaching search and putting all of his eggs in the Herman basket.

He didn't actually perform a search. He thought he could get Jimbo.

LSU didn't think they could get Herman until very late in the process...and Alleva was already in panic mode by that point because the Jimbo deal had fallen through...again (this happened in 2016, but the narrative was that the LSU admin stepped in and prevented the Miles hire). The booko on Herman all along was that he wanted to be at UT. LSU knew it.

Once Herman turned him down, Alleva was literally at square 1 in the coaching search. After a several month head start...he would have had to admit that he was just beginning to formulate a plan again. He ran from that and hired Orgeron.

At that point, we were already fricked. If he didn't hire Orgeron, he likely would have dragged the program through a couple of month process which would have ended in a questionable hire. At minimum, we were able to land a very solid recruiting class.

But, the long term damage was done between the time Miles was fired and the A&M game. That's where Alleva dropped the ball. He shouldn't have a job today. He needs to be fired. That this hasn't happened is pretty clear evidence that there is nobody at LSU in the administration who is capable of recognizing what's going on.

ALL of the criticism should be pointed at Alleva. Solve the Alleva problem and you will solve the Orgeron problem. Let's just hope that Orgeron can continue to recruit the way that he did last year (doubtful). If he can't, it may be a decade before we could rebound into a contender again.

For the first time in a long time, LSU is dealing with "program" issues.

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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:10 am to diablo blanco

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I agree with the obvious incompetence of the BOS, but the move to keep Miles after the cat was out of the bag at the end of the 2015 season is clearly F. King’s folly.

That was a scapegoat.

Everyone who was paying attention knew that, by that point, Jimbo had already bailed. Alleva in 2016, was in exactly the same position...he had no plan. When someone offered a out, he took it.

Any competent AD would have been able to make a move happen if they were convicted that it was the right decision. Alleva was convicted when he was sold that he could get Jimbo. After that, he knew he would have been revealed for his incompetence.

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