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re: Once again posters on The Rant were correct in assessment of a player - Lloyd Cushenberry

Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
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don’t forget your La Tech sweatshirt this weekend.



This joke wasn't funny when you made it last week ringer.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:34 pm to
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This has literally never been me. But okeaee keep repeating it.



You are so out of touch that You wouldn’t know if that was you or not if it slapped you in the face. You’re a delusional physco & you’re the only one that can’t see it
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:34 pm to
I'm sure that made more sense in your head.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 9/19/18 at 1:49 pm to
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Are you saying you don't follow me? You relaize there are two threads that are active that you obviously are doing it in, including this one



Why is it ok for you to follow people around yet you want to call D out for it.
Posted by p&g
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:23 am to
Sure don’t dave.

Why? Bc I have a life.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:18 am to
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but cause we are winning and Coach E is a La guy..



do you really believe that stuff about people liking or giving coach O a break because "he is one of us"? I bet people that are actually from "down the bayou" is a very small percentage of posters on this board. Plus I would bet that if they are LSU fans they could care less or would cut him any slack. The small percentage that is from down the bayou just want to see LSU be successful much more than care about anything about where coach O is from
Posted by Manswers
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:20 am to
Funny, I don't remember "hate" for Cushenberry. Not how I define hate anyway. There's no reason to set up some straw men and label them "idiots" (and I'm still trying to understand your comment about how they "[struck] again").

Your post would be much more effective and you would be much less maligned if you simply reported the positives about Cushenberry.

Many of us are happy to give feedback to the guy who is paying you to post. We have several suggestions to help improve your content. Let us know who we can contact.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:26 am to
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What were my terrible preseason predictions again? I had us around 9-3.


then with this schedule, how could you predict that if you saw everything that was going on with the team and the staff as such a disaster? If O and the staff are so incompetent and every thing that happened last year and since then with this program was so tragic, why did you predict 9-3 (I suppose you are only counting regular season since you only account for 12 games) when we went 9-3 last season in regular season, especially with the schedule being so much tougher? It doesn't add up.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 10:29 am
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:51 am to
noticed the same thing with all the other anti o negatards also predicting a 9-4 or 10-3 season. I didn't really think about it at the time but if the whole program was in such disarray why would they expect to do as well or better against an extremely tougher schedule than last season? If it was a strategy, as I'm sure it was, what was that strategy?
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:22 am to
The whole point all off season was that some people didn't think Coach O was the guy to get us back to a perennial 10 win team and back to competing for championships. I thought it would be an 8-4 type season, but 8 or 9 wins wasn't good enough before and it shouldn't be good enough now. The schedule is the same as it's been outside of last year and it's not getting any easier any time soon.

3-0 is an amazing start, but the doubt has always been the total amount of wins. I'm still hoping I'm wrong and it sure looks like we should be on our way to a 10 win season this year. It's song season and we will have to see how it plays out. I'm gonna be pulling for them to win every game just like I've done every season before this one.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:34 am to
“ if the whole program was in such disarray”

Why should anyone think that? The program could have easily gone 11-2 last season and been ranked in the top 10 The season turned out to a disappointment, but this program was solid last yr and still is. imo
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:39 am to
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why did you predict 9-3 (I suppose you are only counting regular season since you only account for 12 games) when we went 9-3 last season in regular season,



cause its easy to twist if you're proven wrong
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:53 am to
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The schedule is the same as it's been outside of last year and it's not getting any easier any time soon.


how did you come to that conclusion? 2011 is the only year that started off looking like it was going to be as tough as this years but ended up being not as tough as predicted based off where teams ended up in the polls. Still the hardest other than possibly this season. We will see after the final polls.

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The whole point all off season was that some people didn't think Coach O was the guy to get us back to a perennial 10 win team and back to competing for championships.

that's not what I was hearing from them. It's not what they were saying in threads. The jist of what they said is that everything O did was wrong and that basically he was an incompetent boob. Predicting a 9-4 or 10-3 season doesn't jive with having an incompetent boob as HC, with or without a tough schedule. But it seems you are saying that they think he is an average coach, but just can't get us to the next level?

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I thought it would be an 8-4 type season,


so bowl games don't count? Just say 8-5 OK, so that way at least your prediction is somewhat consistent with your beliefs about Coach O. If you think he is an incompetent boob you should predict 7-6.


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I'm still hoping I'm wrong and it sure looks like we should be on our way to a 10 win season this year.


nobody cares if you are "right or wrong" about your prediction. I doubt anyone bet money based off what you think.


edit: nothing against your prediction. It's just that predictions are meaningless. The way I see it is that every week you have a certain percentage chance of winning a game and what actually happens in the game is much more random. Cole kicking that field goal for the win made me happy but still doesn't change the facts of the rest of the game. What's more important was that the team played itself to be in that position over the course of the game.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:07 pm to
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how did you come to that conclusion?

SOS by Year... 

2010 - 8 
2011 - 1 
2012 - 11 
2013 - 11 
2014 - 7 
2015 - 5 
2016 - 4 
2017 - 27 
2018 - 9 

That's from a post by sporttiger. He has links in this post. LINK
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that's not what I was hearing from them. It's not what they were saying in threads. The jist of what they said is that everything O did was wrong and that basically he was an incompetent boob. 

Some people are just morons and will never give him credit and create threads just to be assholes. I'm more or less talking about the regular posters that get called haters and are accused of wanting LSU to lose.
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But it seems you are saying that they think he is an average coach, but just can't get us to the next level? 

I would actually say I thought he was a bit below average. I didn't mind the "letting my coach's coach" model, but it had not worked up until the time that this was being discussed. I didn't trust his ability to hire good assistants because he hadn't shown he could do it yet and then let them coach. He looks like he could be doing it this time.
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so bowl games don't count? Just say 8-5 OK, so that way at least your prediction is somewhat consistent with your beliefs about Coach O. If you think he is an incompetent boob you should predict 7-6. 

A 10 win regular season is the benchmark. Always has been and I've been very consistent with that as have most people. This is where the disconnect comes in. I say 8-4 and people like you come in and start twisting that into "well just say 7-6 like you really mean and call him names." It's a ridiculous response.
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nobody cares if you are "right or wrong" about your prediction. I doubt anyone bet money based off what you think.

I was going out of my way to make sure I made myself clear that I wasn't rooting against him because if I don't people will start accusing me of it. I was trying to be polite about the discussion, but if you want to be a fricking dick about, we can do that too.


Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:10 pm to
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nothing against your prediction. It's just that predictions are meaningless. 

If predictions are meaningless, why are you worrying about what people predicted before the season??
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Cole kicking that field goal for the win made me happy but still doesn't change the facts of the rest of the game. What's more important was that the team played itself to be in that position over the course of the game.

Are you trying to discuss what people thought before the season or what they think now? It's two different conversations that you seem to be trying to make into 1.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:15 pm to
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if the whole program was in such disarray”
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Why should anyone think that?

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The program could have easily gone 11-2 last season


We could just as easily beat Notre Dame and Troy but it didn't go our way. We shouldn't have even been in the position to lose to Troy. Or there were a couple games that we won that we could have just as likely lost. But with all the vitriol towards coach O in the offseason on this board from a small but very vocal group you would think the team was in a downward out of control spiral. Then right before the season starts they all say they are predicting 9-4 or 10-3. It is just very inconsistent.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:17 pm to
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If predictions are meaningless, why are you worrying about what people predicted before the season??


because the way you said it was like it was of some importance


edit; plus that you added that "I hoped I was wrong". Well you say you are an LSU fan so don't you think that is a given. What fan would hope we lose 5 games/ I know there are some that want LSU to lose in order to get rid of O but they are a small minority within the negatard minority

also I am talking about the predictions they made before the season started and about what they said, and still say, about the state program under coach O.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:29 pm to
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plus that you added that "I hoped I was wrong". Well you say you are an LSU fan so don't you think that is a given.

You would think that would be a given, but I've been accused of my hatred for Orgeron not allowing me to be fair and accused of hoping Coach O fails and LSU loses so many times, I wouldn't know where to begin to count just how many it is. At least in the thousands. That's why I'm so careful with any criticisms that I had no matter how big or small.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:30 pm to
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That's from a post by sporttiger. He has links in this post. LINK


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SOS by Year... 2010 - 8 2011 - 1 2012 - 11 2013 - 11 2014 - 7 2015 - 5 2016 - 4 2017 - 27 2018 - 9


they base it off the records of your opponents without taking into consideration the toughness of their opponents.


I was going off of AP poll rankings which isn't the end all be all but it is a lot better than that method. This years schedule, as based off AP rankings, was tougher by far than any other season ended up being. We have to see how these teams we play end up in the rankings. 2011 preseason schedule was slightly tougher than this years preseason schedule but didn't end up being tough as predicted based off final rankings.



I'm not going to do all that research again but it's there if you want to look into it.


I' m not trying to be a dick towards you, not saying you and sorry for coming off like that, just that people on here act like their before the season predictions have some relevance beyond just some number they pulled out their heads.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 12:40 pm
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