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re: Old-Timers Board. Who was better at LSU?Tommy Hodson or Jamarcus Russell?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:09 pm to Tigerinthehollow
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:09 pm to Tigerinthehollow
Are people really pinning the Auburn game on JaMarcus?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:14 pm to tensasparishtiger
quote:because we lost it with a better QB. Because Hodson scored under 10 points 4 times in his career, so he would have lost at Auburn and UF too
Why is the claim that we would have won the 2006 NC with Hudson laughable?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:22 pm to gdtym
He threw for more yards than Auburn had in total offense. He didn't turn the ball over.
So why was it has fault?
So why was it has fault?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:23 pm to dodgeviper
quote:Because he is from Bama, because Tommy is from Lafourche, because Tommy didnt have a year round tan.
So why was it has fault?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:27 pm to Lsupimp
Apples and oranges my man. They're not even comparable.
What's better...Chicago or New York style pizza?
What's better...Chicago or New York style pizza?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:02 pm to lsupride87
quote:
That honestly is the most laughable thing i have ever read on this site
Hodson on the 2006 team would have been amazing. You are clueless to laugh this off.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:41 pm to Football_Freak
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Hodson on the 2006 team would have been amazing.
he never came close to reaching JR's performance on the field in 2006
hodson batted .500 in passing over 60% in his career. JR passed for over 67% in 2006
hodson hit 8.0 ypa twice. JR his over 9.0 ypa in 2006
JR also had a 3.5 TD/INT. here are hodson's TD/INT
2.375
1.667
1.083
1.833
hodson clearly had a better RS Frosh year (which may have been his best year)
they had pretty even RS Sophomore years
JR destroyed hodson in any year his RS Jr year
hodson was pretty mediore-bad his RS Jr. year and recovered a bit his RS Sr year back to his Rs/So stats
who had teh better year?
QBA: 2655 yards @ 57.7% completion rate (8.4 ypa), 22/12
QBB: 3129 yards @ 67.8% completion rate (9.1 ypa), 28/8
that's JR as a RS Jr v. Hodson as a RS Sr.
Hodson's stats
JR Stats
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:23 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP, you can massage stats all you want...but if a game were on the line, and you had to have a QB to trust.......
HODSON. All day, every day. Not even close.
HODSON. All day, every day. Not even close.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:13 am to lsutigermall
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Apples and oranges my man. They're not even comparable.
What's better...Chicago or New York style pizza?
OMG, don't you hate it when you pick up a slice and the crust sags and drops sauce&cheese in your lap?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:30 am to dodgeviper
JR could have gone up and down the field all day given the chance.
The play calling lost that game.
Run Run Run.
With the Number 1 draft pick playing QB and 3 NFL level WR and miles kept banging his head against the wall handing the ball off.
Same thing against Bama in 12 and 13.
The play calling lost that game.
Run Run Run.
With the Number 1 draft pick playing QB and 3 NFL level WR and miles kept banging his head against the wall handing the ball off.
Same thing against Bama in 12 and 13.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:41 am to tigermed2
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Hodson. Accomplished the most w what he had
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:47 am to geaux88
quote:
SFP, you can massage stats all you want...but if a game were on the line, and you had to have a QB to trust.......
HODSON. All day, every day. Not even close.
you must have forgotten all the late game drives JR led LSU to victory
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Slow, I know you're a big JR guy and IMO he was very good. But Hodson was a pretty darn good QB himself. Stats are important and certainly a vehicle to use when comparing say 1986 vs 2006.
Hodson was more of leader than Russell was. The Texas A&M and Notre Dame games in '86 were awesome as well as the Georgia in '87 and Auburn and Ala games in '88.
Hodson was more of leader than Russell was. The Texas A&M and Notre Dame games in '86 were awesome as well as the Georgia in '87 and Auburn and Ala games in '88.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:33 am to I-59 Tiger
quote:
Hodson was more of leader than Russell was.
based on what objective evidence?
i can just as easily say that JR was much more of a leader than Hodson and "win" that point just as easily
quote:
Stats are important and certainly a vehicle to use when comparing say 1986 vs 2006.
well i know there are differences in offenses, but that's why i'm trying to use rates and not totals (even though hodson threw a ton)
on the same token, we can't argue career totals b/c we're talking 4 year starter v 2.5 year starter. if JR came back for 2007 then holy shite i can only imagine what kind of year he'd have. he was already the best QB in CFB in 2006
that's a solid way to look at hodson's time at LSU. where was he in terms of ranking, nationally? i honestly do not know and don't have time to find out the national landscape that year.
JR was 3rd in QB efficiency in 2006 behind 2 guys in smaller conferences with vastly inferior schedules (and one was colt brennan running a run/shoot super spread offense)
LINK
i don't know where to find that sort of info for Hodson's years
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:44 am to I-59 Tiger
I would narrowly pick Hodson, though Russell's 2006 was better than any year Hodson had.
The difference maker was the way Hodson took over from the first game of his freshman year and was the clear leader of the team. Even though his stats are somewhat deflated by the Arnsparger system of bringing Guidry in for two drives in the first half, he was clearly the on-field and sideline leader of the team. Russell struggled with this aspect in 2004, though that may have been due to Saban jerking him around.
Both had big late comebacks (1987 UGA, 1988 Auburn, 1988 Bama, 2005 ASU, 2006 Tennessee) and were cool under pressure by the time they were sophomores.
Both are Tiger Greats.
GEAUX TIGERS
The difference maker was the way Hodson took over from the first game of his freshman year and was the clear leader of the team. Even though his stats are somewhat deflated by the Arnsparger system of bringing Guidry in for two drives in the first half, he was clearly the on-field and sideline leader of the team. Russell struggled with this aspect in 2004, though that may have been due to Saban jerking him around.
Both had big late comebacks (1987 UGA, 1988 Auburn, 1988 Bama, 2005 ASU, 2006 Tennessee) and were cool under pressure by the time they were sophomores.
Both are Tiger Greats.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:53 am to Lsupimp
...not even close. Hodson by a mile!!
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