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re: OK, what is going on with the running game?

Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61028 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:06 pm to
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my next question would be, do we not have any run plays in the playbook that involve the QB being under center?


They threw a touchdown out of an I formation last night so I'd assume it exists
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
45952 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:22 pm to
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We can't even line up and blow Nichols off the ball when we need 2 yards

THIS was the killer event for me - no way that could/should happen - even once.

I am nonplussed - worse than when I learned that Troy beat LSU - (didn't have the misfortune of having to watch that) - this was a sad sad day.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
8742 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:23 pm to
Saw it exists, but seeing how poorly Nussmeier sold the handoff, I’d venture to guess they don’t plan on running the ball out of the I very often.

I haven’t paid much attention to the type of run plays we’re doing. I assume it’s just inside zones and a few counters. Can we make it any easier on the O-line to run block?

It’s hard to fathom we couldn’t just run gap schemes with ease against a D-line as undersized as Nichols.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:02 pm to
bingeaux
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
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11405 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
The O-line is perfectly pedestrian.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:06 pm to
Most of JD's runs were all JD. they were not called plays, just JD doing what no other qb could do. We run rpo offense like last year without a qb running threat. that is unreal lazy coaching imo.
I hope we were just not revealing our real running offense until next week when it starts to count. If not our coaching staff is truly inept and is really poorly trained to coach running offense football.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:14 pm to
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We have to get the ball outside the tackles with more creative runs because it’s obvious at this point that they can’t run block like they can pass block.


Our most effective run plays in both games were all outside. Add in more jet sweeps (typically count as a pass if it’s a forward pitch or pop pass) and WR Screens and you have the basis of an effective run game or supplements to it to get defenses out of stacking 7 or 8 in the box.

If the staff does this and Nuss can keep hitting accurately on the intermediate throws and start hitting few deep ones, the interior run game will actually have a shot to work. It has 0 shot vs stacked boxes.

Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:16 pm to
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These 2 outings are going to hurt recruiting


Nope, especially with the combo of selling playing time and NIL.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30053 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:16 pm to
The OL didn't look bad against Nicholls. The TEs and WRs we bring close to the LOS are getting destroyed. We need to spread teams out and run with teams spread out. Bringing guys in to block for running plays that can't block doesn't help. It just brings extra tacklers close to the line.

Also, Kaleb Jackson has sucked donkey balls.
Posted by shadyone2
Member since Oct 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:20 pm to
So the Nicholls can do it to us but we can’t do it to undersized team? Check out size of their DL. LOL
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:21 pm to
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they all averaged around 15 yards per game....much like Nuss had last night.....like I said, look it up dumbass.


Burrow was no running QB, either. He had less than 400 yards each season. However, he knew when to pull the ball down and pick up free yards. He made defenses respect the fact that he would take the free yards anytime a DE crashed on a read option or when WRs were covered in man and the secondary had their backs turned to him.

Nuss is just as fast, if not a little faster than Burrow. We saw examples of what he can do escaping in the pocket and running and sliding last night. He just needs to learn to be decisive with it and make defenses pay enough to respect it.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2661 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:22 pm to
We have a RS freshman at center. From what I’ve seen he’s not there yet and that is one of if not the most important positions on the Oline. We do need to use our speed and run outside more and I think you saw some of that last night. Not to mention a new OC who has never called plays before this year. I expect more improvement in run game this weekend. But will need to let Chester grow into the position.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:30 pm to
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The struggle this year is very difficult to understand other than maybe the blocking scheme and vision of backs does not compliment each other meaning: If Williams is a better gap scheme runner but our offensive line is better at zone blocking then its not a compliment.


This is an interesting point considering that Diggs had multiple 100 yard games with almost the same line and the Center position still being the weakest link.

It wouldn’t matter yet if he was still here, though. He’s still injured and not playing.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Like I said I’m not arguing with a guy who says this when Stetson Bennett literally won two natties and had pretty good rushing performances in them.


If you think Nuss isn’t capable of the same kind of rushing production as Bennett, then you aren’t worth arguing with, either. It’s just a matter of the staff and him making the decision to do it more often.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Les Miles says, let me show you how that works....Orgeron says, let me show you how that works with Les Miles' players


Les Miles amnesia. I guess you forgot how that worked out in late 2015 and early 2016. Predictable run games are easy for a decent defense to stop.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:45 pm to
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We had Diggs but coach ran him off by wanting to split his reps with a mediocre running back Josh Williams


Do some homework, dummy. Diggs is still hurt. He was allowed to walk because he may not be available for half the season and may not ever be at 100%.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:47 pm to
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Bo Davis is shite


Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:52 pm to
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Ask the Rant's GOAT OL Coach why we can't run block; not even against Francis T. Nicholls State High School.


Ah the fricking dumbass who’s talked shite about Brad Davis since he fricking got here. I guess you idiots have forgotten just how bad the OL talent and recruiting during Miles last couple of seasons and under O? The run game needs a lot of work, but frick some of you are brain dead when it comes to football.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27552 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:55 pm to
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The OL didn't look bad against Nicholls. The TEs and WRs we bring close to the LOS are getting destroyed. We need to spread teams out and run with teams spread out. Bringing guys in to block for running plays that can't block doesn't help. It just brings extra tacklers close to the line. Also, Kaleb Jackson has sucked donkey balls.


Yeah, that’s holdover from Denbrock and it needs to at least be used a lot less. I agree spreading out with our WR and TE talent will unclog the middle some.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20928 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm not sure about receivers but we do it with tight ends and all of them struggle in run blocking so it's a net negative to do so.


In the play from the USC game Dickson was pointing out that we pull Lacy in tight to the end of the line. He cant block that.
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