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re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow

Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:35 am to
Posted by tigers911
Member since Oct 2007
125 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:35 am to
You guys are idiots, you play to win today. 5 run lead with 2 guys on isn’t some huge lead. Win today with 2 pitchers. Saw how happy Jay was postgame , the plan couldn’t have went any better. It’s embarrassing that we have fans like the guys commenting in this thread.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11293 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:01 am to
*uh oh
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
2033 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:04 am to
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why not pivot and try to save Cowan for tomorrow?

Because you secure the W
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:33 am to
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Because you secure the W


He maximized the chances of getting one win at the cost of the chances of winning the series. There is absolutely no question that their chances of winning today are significantly worse without having Cowan available. Again, I never suggested he not have Cowan available yesterday if a high leverage situation arose, but if the rest of the staff couldn’t hold Kentucky to 6 runs in 3.1 IP, how are they going to pitch well enough to win today?
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3775 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:45 am to
Cowan is a difficult transition for hitters when he comes in after a hard thrower like Schmidt. I prefer him here vs starting.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290874 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:49 am to
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I never suggested he not have Cowan available yesterday if a high leverage situation arose


Kentucky had 1st and 3rd w/ one out in the 6th. With the way the team has played, this was a very important point in the game and it was paramount to stop the rally.

Of course, Cowan struck out both batters to get out of the jam. Finishing the game & using just two pitchers also has value.

The move was the right one. If that lead gets blown then you are sitting here asking why they didn’t go to Cowan
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3775 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:53 am to
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Guidry, Sheerin and Garcia pitching tomorrow. So pick one


Noot and Cooper Williams are in the mix. My guess is one of those two.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:56 am to
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if a high leverage situation arose,


Well you answered your own question
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3775 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:12 am to
You and Oh are acting like we do not have plenty of good arms left. Winning the game yesterday was as important as any game this year. What would we be talking about had we lost yesterday?

You are one of the good baseball posters on here, so not trying to trash you, but disagree with your take. Yesterday was as close to a must win as you can have at the midpoint of a long season. And now that we won it, today is just as important. We have to start winning some sec series.

All these are available:

Noot (my guess to start)
Cooper Williams
Sheerin,
Guidry,
Garcia,
Fontenot

Doesn't that look like a group that should be enough for a Sunday game?
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:56 am to
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Well you answered your own question


They were two batters away from the tying run even coming to the plate. It wasn’t high leverage. Yes, he should have been ready to go if they allowed another base runner or two, but they should have gone to one of the other guys they are planning to use situationally today. Now, if the belief is Cowan is the only remaining pitcher they can trust, then by all means get the one win, but if that’s the best they can hope for, then this season is lost anyway. They can’t keep losing series, especially at home.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:59 am to
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The move was the right one. If that lead gets blown then you are sitting here asking why they didn’t go to Cowan


If they NEVER went to Cowan, I would agree, but that’s not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting bringing him in if they gave up another runner or two to shut down the rally at that point.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4488 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:00 am to
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All these are available: Noot (my guess to start) Cooper Williams Sheerin, Guidry, Garcia, Fontenot Doesn't that look like a group that should be enough for a Sunday game?


It also looks like a group capable of holding a 5 run lead for 4 innings.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24206 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:14 am to
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You guys are idiots, you play to win today. 5 run lead with 2 guys on isn’t some huge lead. Win today with 2 pitchers. Saw how happy Jay was postgame , the plan couldn’t have went any better. It’s embarrassing that we have fans like the guys commenting in this thread.



It's embarrassing that fans like yourself cant see that there was other options besides Cowan up 5-0 with 11 outs left. Now if it was 5-2 then yea bring in Cowan. But it was 5-0.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24206 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:17 am to
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Now, if the belief is Cowan is the only remaining pitcher they can trust, then by all means get the one win, but if that’s the best they can hope for, then this season is lost anyway. They can’t keep losing series, especially at home.



And i was going to say that as well. If Cowan is the only one that Jay trusts then we kind of fuked don't you agree.

I still say we could of pieced 11 outs some way and have Cowan for today either to start or in long relief.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24206 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:20 am to
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Kentucky had 1st and 3rd w/ one out in the 6th. With the way the team has played, this was a very important point in the game and it was paramount to stop the rally.

Of course, Cowan struck out both batters to get out of the jam. Finishing the game & using just two pitchers also has value.

The move was the right one. If that lead gets blown then you are sitting here asking why they didn’t go to Cowan



The move was the right one? Very debatable

Why not let Cowan finish the 6th and take him out and save him for Sunday? That way you need 9 more outs from other guys.

I guess Jay is going to decide if Cowan is better served in the pen or as a 3rd starter. I think either way he helps us tremendously.

How long is Moore out for anyone know?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290874 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:22 am to
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The move was the right one? Very debatable



Yes. You know nothing about pitching and pitching move
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24206 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:26 am to
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quote:
The move was the right one? Very debatable


Yes. You know nothing about pitching and pitching move



Right and you know everything. My bad...
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
24206 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:28 am to
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All these are available: Noot (my guess to start) Cooper Williams Sheerin, Guidry, Garcia, Fontenot Doesn't that look like a group that should be enough for a Sunday game?


It also looks like a group capable of holding a 5 run lead for 4 innings.




Damn sure would of taken my chances with those guys instead of Cowan up 5-0
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:35 am to
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Why not let Cowan finish the 6th and take him out and save him for Sunday?


People act like you just show up on the mound, throw a few pitches then throw 5 innings tomorrow

This isn't 10 year old travel baseball where we just ruin arms. And it seldom has worked for us anyway over the years. The hitters are too good for your arm not to be completely fresh.

Jay has said it many times. When he gets a guy "hot" in the bullpen with all that it entails to get there, he wants to put that guy in. He doesn't want to throw them the next day if they have gotten "hot" if at all possible. And it definitely wouldn't be more than inning or so the next day if he did.

This board changes quickly. Now all of a sudden we "know" that Cowan is the number 1 reliever in the country and will come in and throw 5 scoreless innings on demand.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 10:36 am
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:41 am to
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This is one thing that frustrates me about Johnson. Having a plan to pitch Schmidt 5-6 innings then bring in Cowan makes sense, but if you can get through this game now without a high leverage situation developing, why not pivot and try to save Cowan for tomorrow?


Because you don’t get cute. UK proved Friday they can put up multiple runs per inning if guys get on, and they will punish you for free base runners. Even up and cruising, I appreciate that Jay ensured the win rather than trying to get cute closing with unproven arms.
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