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re: Official Insecure-U vs tFlagship Smack Talk Thread
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:04 pm to icegator337
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:04 pm to icegator337
Boom. 

Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:12 pm to AbitaFan08
AbitaFan08
How is the search going?
How is the search going?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:17 pm to joeleblanc
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joeleblanc
Pretty sure I've posted the revised statutes multiple times on TD when you bring it up. Do I need to do it again?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:20 pm to icegator337
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I'm pretty sure we have now won more NCAA national championships in the last 15 minutes than ULL ever has
Its pretty hard to win a national championship in 116 years.
Oh wait LSU has done it 5 times
in mens golf alone
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:43 pm to joeleblanc
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The College Board, for example, defines flagship universities as the best-known institutions in the state, noting that they were generally the first to be established and are frequently the largest and most selective, as well as the most research-intensive public universities. These schools are often land-grant, sea-grant, or space-grant research universities. According to Robert M. Berdahl, then chancellor of the University of California, Berkeley, the phrase "flagship" came into existence in the 1950s when the Morrill Act schools were joined by newer institutions built in a wave of post-war expansion of state university systems.
LSU Celebrates 150th Anniversary of the Morrill Act
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the term "flagship university" is still used in official contexts by the U.S. Department of Education, various state university system boards of governors, and state legislatures. Additionally, state universities often self-designate themselves as flagships. Higher education agencies, research journals, and other organizations also use the term, though their lists of flagship universities can differ greatly. One list of 50 flagship universities (one per state) is employed by the Higher Education Coordinating Board, the College Board, the Princeton Review[17] and many other state and federal educational and governmental authorities[18] for a variety of purposes including tuition and rate comparisons, research studies and public policy analyses. Given the widespread use of this list, it has been described as a "nationally recognizable and accepted list of flagship universities".
To break that down for you, there is a basic standard of practice in the system of higher education that determines whether or not a university is a "flagship." An official document naming a flagship does not exist in any state in the Union. So what problem you have is not with LSU calling itself the flagship, but the method by which the entire nation determines a flagship. Take that up with the US Department of Education, I'm sure they will see things your way.
Here are a couple national institution's lists of flagship universities. I actually did see UL listed, but strangely that was for the state of Kentucky. I haven't figured out how they made that typo yet.
College Board List of Flagship Universities
Princeton Review Names LSU as Flagship
However, if you'd like LSU to no longer call itself the flagship, let the Board of Supervisors know that there is precedent. In Idaho, the University of Idaho, as the flagship of the state, self-determined to no longer proclaim itself the flagship, as seen here.
So if you want ULL to be the flagship, all you need to do is have ULL receive more state funding, be more recognized nationwide, and go back in time to have ULL come into existence before LSU. Good luck there Chief.

Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:45 pm to Catman88
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The single greatest football achievement in ULL's history was beating a 6-6 Texas A&M team at home.
I think I remember them beating Alabama a couple of decades ago. Anyone remember that, or am I nuts?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:46 pm to Penrod
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I think I remember them beating Alabama a couple of decades ago. Anyone remember that, or am I nuts?
That was ULM. Certainly easy to confuse because ULM and ULL are in the same system, which is why neither one is noted as the University of Louisiana.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:58 pm to AbitaFan08
I think that informative post right there pretty much slammed ole Joe on his arse.



Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:59 pm to AbitaFan08
And they scored 21 points in an entire game.. Pretty hard to do. They even scored 1 TD in a loss the year before.
In just TWO games against Alabama ULM has scored FOUR TD's.
Alabama finished just 1 win better than the great Texas A&M team ULL beat. I guess ULM one upped "Louisiana" again.

In just TWO games against Alabama ULM has scored FOUR TD's.
Alabama finished just 1 win better than the great Texas A&M team ULL beat. I guess ULM one upped "Louisiana" again.


This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:03 pm to AbitaFan08
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Additionally, state universities often self-designate themselves as flagships
See what I mean Chief?
Its a joke!
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:04 pm to LSU316
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LSU316
Actually he proved my point.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:04 pm to joeleblanc
He posted really good information, and you quote that?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:05 pm to joeleblanc
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Actually he proved my point.
Which is...
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:09 pm to joeleblanc
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Actually he proved my point.
You dum baw?
Can you provide the documentation where LSU proclaimed itself the "flagship" before anyone else did? Doubtful since that certainly doesn't exist.
Also son perception is reality all the time. LSU is perceived as the flagship university of the State of Louisiana across the nation. ULL...well they aren't perceived as anything because you can't find a handful of people outside of this state that have heard of them.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:10 pm to joeleblanc
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See what I mean Chief?
Its a joke!
Yes, the standard practice that is acknowledged and accepted by every national educational system is a joke. I'll be sure to call every one of them and let them know that some butthurt Cajun doesn't like that things didn't go his way, and I'm sure elections for flagships will be put on the calendar.
Sadly, there's no reasoning with the willfully ignorant. Let's just go ahead and settle this on the diamond. Best of three, winner gets title of flagship.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:10 pm to joeleblanc
sure joe, you can take out that one sentence instead of comprehending the entire post. Here's all I heard
LINK
LINK
I'm not paying any more tolls
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One list of 50 flagship universities (one per state) is employed by the Higher Education Coordinating Board, the College Board, the Princeton Review[17] and many other state and federal educational and governmental authorities[18] for a variety of purposes including tuition and rate comparisons, research studies and public policy analyses. Given the widespread use of this list, it has been described as a "nationally recognizable and accepted list of flagship universities".
LINK
LINK
I'm not paying any more tolls
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:11 pm to AbitaFan08
Ok let's stipulate... you have a superior athletic program.... That's should not come as a shocker to anyone... only the real crazies in Cajun land would attempt to dispute that... how could you NOT be superior given the vast resources
We however are proud of what we have accomplished on the size budget we have... NOT in comparison to YOUR budget but in comparison to most MID Majors... And we have a right to be proud in that context...
Very few programs at our level have been to a CWS... and then finish 3rd in the Nation...and then reach a Super Regional in back to back years... on top of being a National Seed and #1 in all polls for most of the year...
We have a strong history of success in basketball prior to the actions taken LARGELY by the prejudiced Louisiana Legislature made up predominantly LSU Law school grads....
We have a National power in Women's softball that despite your success this year is in fact superior to yours....
And most recently we have had a run of success in football that is impressive AT OUR LEVEL...
A REAL big bro would be proud of the accomplishments of another state school... but nooooooo... In this backwards homespun world, NO ONE can claim any accomplishments without ridicule.. with out being treated like you would a BAMA fan when entering this supposedly sacred ground of tigggerr land
And then you question why we (ok while I) say Roll Tide??? Seriously... to be stepped on... belittled by you would you expect anything different?
We however are proud of what we have accomplished on the size budget we have... NOT in comparison to YOUR budget but in comparison to most MID Majors... And we have a right to be proud in that context...
Very few programs at our level have been to a CWS... and then finish 3rd in the Nation...and then reach a Super Regional in back to back years... on top of being a National Seed and #1 in all polls for most of the year...
We have a strong history of success in basketball prior to the actions taken LARGELY by the prejudiced Louisiana Legislature made up predominantly LSU Law school grads....
We have a National power in Women's softball that despite your success this year is in fact superior to yours....
And most recently we have had a run of success in football that is impressive AT OUR LEVEL...
A REAL big bro would be proud of the accomplishments of another state school... but nooooooo... In this backwards homespun world, NO ONE can claim any accomplishments without ridicule.. with out being treated like you would a BAMA fan when entering this supposedly sacred ground of tigggerr land
And then you question why we (ok while I) say Roll Tide??? Seriously... to be stepped on... belittled by you would you expect anything different?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:17 pm to RC1976
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We have a strong history of success in basketball prior to the actions taken LARGELY by the prejudiced Louisiana Legislature made up predominantly LSU Law school grads....
What does the legislature have to do with your basketball program?
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