re: Offensive Line vs Scheme. NE vs KC - perfect explanation why LSU's scheme needs to change

Not just edge rusher.

We couldn’t pick up blitzes.

Against Florida Joseph are you lunch and he’s a LB.

No one is going to argue that OL play was good.

But it wasn’t our only issue on offense.

Players weren’t the only issue on offense.

So what are we doing to improve from an Xs and Os standpoint? Because I dont See us beating teams consistently without a clear talent advantage.

I’d like to see a lot more RPOs and take pass blocking out of the equation more.

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Patrick Mahomes' average Time to Throw is 2.91 seconds. Tom Brady's is 2.61 seconds. Only a few teams in the NFL are over 3 seconds.

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What you are stating here, without apparently know it, is that experienced quarterbacks recognize where to throw the ball earlier than inexperienced quarterbacks.

I'm fairly confident the issue is not that Tom Brady has a terrible offensive line - he just reads the defense and takes what is available. Quickly.

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I don't know but scrap some of the current pass blocking schemes. It's really just the one that is so bad. It's also the one LSU likes to use the most.

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going to throw this out there as it pertains to talent vs. scheme...

What if our talent on the OL functioned as well as it did ONLY because that zone scheme(s) masked some, not all... but some, of the deficiencies.

The assumption is that zone blocking schemes are the source of the problem, but then I see many (and I'm not singling you out bencoleman) in the same breath say we don't have the talent on the OL. I don't see how one can argue that both are true.

And for the record, I do think we lack talent in certain places. And that our blocking scheme has helped in certain areas. In the same breath my argument while missing some talent is complemented by zone schemes, our overall scheme is not complementing those two (mainly formations).

I'm going to point out something I saw both the NFC and AFC champions do last night... 2 TE sets, either with motion man or FB... pass play with at least 4 in routes. It is possible to line up in power or protect, and run a pass play, including spreading the field along both axis... from a run/protect formation. It can be done. Don't make yourself hostage to the formation. There's my biggest pet peeve regarding a complementary overall scheme. Works very well with zone schemes because the initial keys for the back 7 look exactly, well... not exactly but very similar, whether that is a run out of power or a pass with protect, or a pass with 3-5 in routes.

LSU Pass Pro: Max Protect Blocking Schemes/Sacks/Reduced Off Production

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I wrote last month about the Foster Moreau problem and how he was never really able to flex on people like he could have because the staff thought they needed him more as a pass protector than receiver.

LSU has also kept the running back in for protection often. This has led to some of our best athletes not getting the ball in space.

You have to go back to 2006 to find a running back with over 30 catches

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The Foster Moreau Problem



TE scores in less time than LSU takes to throw



RB scores in less time than LSU takes to throw



A - Max Protect does not work and takes RB & TE out of OFF

B - The faster the ball is thrown or run past the LOS the quicker it is a problem for the Defense

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IMO it's a little tough to be comparing two of the best NFL offenses to what LSU is doing. Obviously, we need to improve in a number of areas on offense, but players are in the NFL for a reason.

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I agree. Also, the 20 hr rule is a big difference.

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Patrick Mahomes' average Time to Throw is 2.91 seconds. Tom Brady's is 2.61 seconds. Only a few teams in the NFL are over 3 seconds.

Friendly reminder, and obvious point - all of the offensive lines in the NFL are, well NFL offensive lines.

So, whether it's LA Tech or Alabama (who will always have NFL or near NFL caliber defensive line) - LSU's offensive scheme needs to update itself.

Also, can someone find me a team in the NFL that doesn't use motions and jet sweeps or swing passes these days?

Thanks.

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When any team has multiple players that dominate the line of scrimmage, it's very hard to execute any scheme.

This 31 yr old guy has plenty of time for this.


He turned the Rams around in 1 year running the same 5 people out of the same personnel formation.

He did not add complexity. He simplified and sped the plays up.

Making a 5 yr plan is great job security.....and a great excuse for status quo
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After watching the blocking scheme against the Florida play posted on here, I didn't like the way brossette went across the formation to block and then didn't have anyone to block anyway. Should have been used to pick up the lb up the middle who eventually gets the TFL. In most of the plays illustrated, the tackles were easily whipped or blew assignments, this is the most critical position to upgrade on the team along with upgrading the blocking schemes and route combos.