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re: Observation on Jefferson

Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:59 pm to
i am sorry, but i think JJ starting next year will limit us and maybe prevent us from the SEC west title again. he's just too damn slow in making decisions; whether to run or whether to pass. he just doesn't seem to be able to make his progressions quick enough to see open receivers. we were very fortunate in this game that his primary WR was open, esp Tolliver on 2 of his TD plays (the fade is thrown early). assuming we'll get the running game going next year, he'll be servicable but not good enough for championships. A&M wasn't as good as several of the SEC teams we faced.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:02 pm to
jj is straight line fast....his stride looks to be almost 4 yards. you have to appreciate that he has been hanging in the pocket and taking a shot to get off some pretty nice passes. did it a couple of times against a & m....another huge one was against bama. i think that really seperated him for lee as the competition heated up.

some would say his running ability, but i think it was his toughness that gave him the edge.
This post was edited on 1/9/11 at 9:03 pm
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

According to Matt Moscona, JJ said he had "prepared more of this game than ever before." Don't know if the extra weeks helped him or he finally got the fire under his butt to realize he needs to salvage something out of this season




I think he watched video of Mettenberger and that is what has lit a fire under his butt.He realizes that Mettenberger is the real deal.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

He ran a 4.6 forty before the season. That's pretty fast for a QB.


4.6 is average skill position in college at best.
Posted by ATR
Utopos
Member since Feb 2008
916 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

he wasn't given a chance at QB.




for the umpteenth time, he was given a chance and asked for a position change.
Posted by NOLAtoChiTwn
Michigan
Member since Nov 2008
363 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 7:36 am to
It's kind of a sorry, no one, in his young developement as a passer had the eye and desire to tell to use more rist action on his short and medium distance passes.I wish he could fix it.
Posted by jimbeaux82
Natchitoches, La
Member since Oct 2008
1337 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:09 am to
What was most impressive about JJ in the Cotton Bowl is that he was decisive, whether it be throwing or running. He made up his mind to run and he ran. He made up his mind to throw and he threw. In all of the 2010 season, there were maybe 3 games where he showed something like this decisiveness, the rest of the time he looked confused and lost, and his stats and the team suffered as a result.

So how can he capture this performance and repeat it on a consistent basis? What was different about the Cotton Bowl? Opponents?? Time to prepare?? JJ seeing the light with Mett as his competition for 2011?? Wish I had the answer but his Cotton Bowl performance was impressive to say the least.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45722 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:16 am to
quote:

dancing around like he's on soul train


Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:17 am to
quote:

I think Crowton was either not running the offense, or told to cut all the spread and option stuff out.


Crowton ran the offense as always because we ran the option to the short side of the field. I think a light went off in his head or LM told him "stop fricking putting them five wide." We went back to the ground an pound, mix some play action on second an spread on third(if needed). Looked a lot like 2007.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48301 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:39 am to
quote:

4.6 is average skill position in college at best.


Are you going to argue that 4.6 is the average forty time for a college QB? Because that's the discussion we're having.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:44 am to
quote:

With a new OC, JJ = Kodi Burns


truth

quote:

He ran a 4.6 forty before the season. That's pretty fast for a QB.


4.6 in North South speed.
Hes pretty fast for a QB but not shifty
Big difference
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 8:47 am
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:45 am to
A number of mediocre QB's have looked good against Big 12 defenses. Heisman winner Jason White comes to mind. JJ is mediocre at best.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48301 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:54 am to
quote:

4.6 in North South speed.
Hes pretty fast for a QB but not shifty
Big difference


Right. I said that earlier. He's got good straight-line speed but doesn't move horizontally as well.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48301 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:55 am to
quote:

A number of mediocre QB's have looked good against Big 12 defenses. Heisman winner Jason White comes to mind.


So you think Jason White was a mediocre college QB?

Laughable.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:59 am to
JJ is very inaccurate as a passer. He made some nice throws but as usuall he missed several wide open receivers.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:05 am to
quote:

So you think Jason White was a mediocre college QB?

Yea, his skills were mediocre.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:09 am to
quote:

So you think Jason White was a mediocre college QB?

Apparently every NFL GM thought he was mediocre as well. That's the reson he went undrafted and wakes up each morning to go to work instead of playing on Sundays.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:09 am to
quote:

The worst part is that we have one of the best running QB's playing reciever because he wasn't given a chance at QB.


this is what i have been thinking all year also. wonder what next year will bring.
Posted by lmt
Houston
Member since Oct 2009
329 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:09 am to
Let's not forget people are faster on turf!
Posted by northLAgoomba
The Cooper Road, Ratchet City, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3790 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:37 am to
quote:

if he would just run and stop dancing around like he's on soul train he could pick up more yardage...reggie bush finally fiqured it out....

Fail
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