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re: Observation of Lee from LSU Sideline Vantagepoint
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:54 pm to Paul_LSU_passion
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:54 pm to Paul_LSU_passion
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And you also never see any emotion out of him when he throws an int.
The only thing I want to see Lee do when he throws a pick is to try and make tackle the guy who stole our ball.
This "he shows no emotion" stuff is ridiculous. He doesn't like to throw INT's. He knows he screwed up. I can't stand players that yell at their teamates following frick ups and I can't stand the "Manning Reaction" post-INT. I'm sure Peyton/Eli don't like throwing INT's as much as Lee, but I really think a lot of that shite is for show.
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:08 am to lsu xman
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the combine can only get you so far.
I agree, but the fact that Lee doesn't get the ball to him as much as he would like won't fill the void.
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the NFL wants to see what you do on the field too.
They have all of last season to dwell upon. They can also look at the TD's he's caught this season...or the bobbled INT that he could've secured yesterday afternoon, that resulted in a Bama TD (How much did Bama win by, again?).
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they cant make a good evaluation if the WR only has 35receptions for the season.
I'm sure those considering paying Byrd millions of dollars have considered the Lee factor...if they haven't noticed, his agent will point it out.
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not for Bowe's on the field production, he wouldnt had been the #3 WR drafted.
It's not about on field production. It's about on field play. Once again, nobody will care that Byrd caught 4 TD's against Directional Tenn. St. They will, however, note that catch against Auburn last year. I don't know how many people Brandon Jacobs ran over while he was at SIU. But I'm sure none of the execs that drafted him gave two shits about his 200 yard performance against arch rival Murray St. They drafted him because of his potential to run over LaRon Landry...something they simply cannot gauge by looking at a stat sheet.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 4:39 am to ready4something
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Not having a veteran qb has cost Byrd millions.
Dropping a lot of passes isn't helping himself either.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 4:40 am to nolatiger88
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Byrd flipped out after one of the series and was talking to chris mitchell and JJ. He also yelled something at lee before slamming down on the bench. The receivers seem to not have any faith in him and are getting fed up with him.
And if that is true, so much for senior leadership. That is VERY shitty.
The WRs have no business complaining. Sure Lee isn't doing well, but the WRs certainly aren't helping him.
They dropped about 5 or balls yesterday, one resulted in an INT for Lee that shouldn't have been, and another woulda been about a 70 yard TD.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 4:43 am to Ramatiger
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me on dude. You know every well, if matt flynn were on this team, both byrd and lafells numbers would be much better
No one's denying that.
But you also can't deny that Byrd and Lafell aren't helping themselves, or Lee for that matter, with the ridiculous amount of passes they've dropped this year.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:33 am to Paul_LSU_passion
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And you also never see any emotion out of him when he throws an int
At least he isn't grinning and laughing like Aaron Brooks always did.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:36 am to tiger20
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He is more likely to drop in the draft by pouting and blaming his teammmates when things don't go the way he would like
Signed,
Terrell Owens and Jeremy Shockey
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:04 pm to ready4something
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Not having a veteran qb has cost Byrd millions.
That should be of absolutely no concern to the coaching staff.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:05 pm to Icansee4miles
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At least he isn't grinning and laughing like Aaron Brooks always did.
Man, that used to bug the heck out of me!
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:06 pm to Paul_LSU_passion
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And you also never see any emotion out of him when he throws an int.
If you don't think he hates throwing ints you my friend are a pure breed idiot
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:06 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
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FWIW, Matt Flynn didnt have any 'interaction' with the WR's on the sidelines when he was a freshman either...
FWIW, Flynn wasn't the starter playing during the games either. Bad comparison.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:07 pm to Luke4LSU
He should be able to lead just as Matt Ryan is leading the Falcons vets. Being a freshman is not an out for that. By being the starter the coaches are in effect saying that you are the leader of the offense. So he should act as if. If he can't then he isn't right for the job.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:08 pm to Luke4LSU
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I think it's because he's a freshmen. Can you imagine trying to lead guys 2 and 3 years older than you, who will be high draft picks in the NFL, while being a 19-yr old newb??
I remember an interview with Peyton Manning his rookie year in the NFL and they talked about his leadership, etc. Peyton said, he remembered going into the huddle after Todd Helton and Jerry Colquitt were injured and saying, look guys if we beleive in each other we can come back and win this game. A 300 lb offensive linman told him to STFU and not do anything else stupid.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:16 pm to ahuddl3
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Observation of Lee from LSU Sideline Vantagepoint
Numbers aren't everything that NFL scouts look at. They also tend to pay attention to "what did you do with the talent that was playing around you?" Right now, Byrd isn't helping himself. Lee certainly isn't helping him any, but Byrd has to start catching the football if he wants to see the big bucks.
I observed several passes thrown by Lee that fell short but I also felt like the WR made little effort to work back to the football like you would expect.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:39 pm to Texascajun4LSU
Ok. I've only read a couple of posts and here is my take. J. Lee has played in enough games and seen enough defenses. In my book he is not a freshman. I did notice myself no communication with the coaches or players. Well except for CLM telling him its gonna be ok. You can be a leader when your a freshman, but you can't have the deer in the headlights look. Hell i was a team leader in the US Army Airbore when i was 20. Everyone in my team was at least 4-5 years older than me. So about the age stuff its bull shite. You have it or you dont.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:48 pm to bluedevil504
I think people are just nit picking now. You may be menstruating but there is meds for it. Pick your battles. The lack of leadership from a first year starter is not a rarity. Any of you who have ever played QB know its not something every personality can step into and take command right away. This is one instant its appropriate to use the RS frosh theory.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 9:58 pm to drobis1
just a kid
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