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re: O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.

Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:11 am to
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:11 am to
It is the Rant, plenty people on here live a negative life, not happy unless they are complaining
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:11 am to
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But is there any circumstance where you would give the man credit? 


He gets credit for making this fanbase all of the sudden call a 3 loss season great and having a horrid offense called "moving in the right direction".

When we fired miles we were losing every year to bama and multiole inferior teams while having a bad offense.
Now we are losing to bama and multiple inferior teams while having a worse offense than the offenses miles had.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:12 am to
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You're excited about a guy you had never heard of until a few months ago, and has never proven that he can transform a college passing game?
frick YOU. You're telling me who I've heard of now? Just because YOU haven't heard of him doesn't mean I haven't. That just shows that YOU are the ignorant one, not me. I've known about Brady from following Sean Payton for several years now, dumbass. Payton and Brees both speak/have spoken extremely highly of him for several years now.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94785 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:12 am to
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Who is the current offensive coordinator?


It’s his last year too.

Does he not get credit for bringing in Brady to replace him, because that’s what’s happening. Or are you just blind to that?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:13 am to
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Miles CLEARLY never made changes, and it always showed. It was the same power running based offense, year in and out, and there were obviously no significant changes even attempted to be made to the offense.




2 of the last 3 miles offenses shite all over anything O has produced at lsu.
Facts and shite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:15 am to
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Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire. Because it was.



No.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:15 am to
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most here


Are complete clowns
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75907 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:15 am to
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Does he not get credit for bringing in Brady to replace him, because that’s what’s happening. Or are you just blind to that?


"We're gonna hire the best coordinators."

frick off.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42645 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:15 am to
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I was 100% against the O hire.


As was I. He has done better to this point than I expected. I hope he continues to do so. He has raised the bar for himself in my expectations now.

There are things about him that concern me but I think that would be true for any coach.

And don't confuse the way some people react to sycophantic posters with people really rooting for O to fail or having irrational hatred for him. There are those, don't get me wrong, but there are also a lot who just don't want to elevate a new coach who has yet to take the next step we were supposed to be aiming for.

Still, I am cautiously optimistic like I was entering 2011.



Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16540 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:16 am to
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I guess this is where the rub is. I don't think you deserve credit just for changing stuff up. Change can be a good thing, but why are major changes being made every year? To me, that's not the sign of someone being innovative and forward thinking. Look at the specific circumstances as to how the change has come about. We hired Canada and handcuffed his offense. Then he hires someone who everyone knew would be a disaster. Now he's hiring an assistant to that same guy. I see the changes that have occurred under this coach as someone is panicking, indecisive or a mix of the two.

And that's a legitimate criticism. I think it's easy to see that O wants to revamp the offense and has since day one, but the progression has been awkward and ineffective at times. It's kind of like going from point A to B by way of Q, R, S.

I think Alleva has dictated some of the hiring and hamstrung O, but he has also not been proactive enough. I think he's learning, but it has not been a smooth process by any means.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:16 am to
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Teams switch to spread offenses all the time.

Its almost never a 3 year process.

Almost everyone of our players played in something like a spread in high school.

Not all spreads are equal, and the Canada experiment should've never happened, so that crosses off a year. O should be blamed for that, but most 'tards around here liked the hire, just because he won OC of the year award for a gimmicky offense.

And maybe not you, but many here keep saying that Canada's offense was more successful against Bama... Are y'all freaking retarded? Seriously? I remember one break down on Bama's defense where DW was allowed a long TD run. That's your defense for Canada? frick you and your low expectations.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75907 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:19 am to
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the Canada experiment should've never happened, so that crosses off a year


That's not really how these things work.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78282 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:19 am to
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frick you and your low expectations.


Listen here cocksucker, I am Not the one defending a 3 year process to just figure out what we want the offense to look like.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:19 am to
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And maybe not you, but many here keep saying that Canada's offense was more successful against Bama... Are y'all freaking retarded? Seriously? I remember one break down on Bama's defense where DW was allowed a long TD run. That's your defense for Canada? frick you and your low expectations.


Dude, this post make everyone aware you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:20 am to
You had never heard of a coach that had only been a position coach at william and mary and an assistant at the saints.
Stop. No on believes you knew who he was before getting hired here.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:23 am to
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Not all spreads are equal, and the Canada experiment should've never happened, so that crosses off a year. O should be blamed for that, but most 'tards around here liked the hire, just because he won OC of the year award for a gimmicky offense. 


Yes O should het blamed for hiring a shift heavy guy and then realizing he doesnt like going shift heavy pre snap. Who else should we blame?
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but many here keep saying that Canada's offense was more successful against Bama... Are y'all freaking retarded? Seriously? I remember one break down on Bama's defense where DW was allowed a long TD run. That's your defense for Canada? frick you and your low expectation



2017 lsu almost outgained and did outscore 2016 and 2018 lsu combined against bama.


Talk about low expectations
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:27 am to
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Talk about low expectations
I haven't defended those years. They're all atrocious against Bama. It's the future with Brady I'm excited about. Why are you being stupid? It's not that hard to understand.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94785 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:28 am to
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We're gonna hire the best coordinators."



Did you just ignore what’s said in the post?

Or is Brady, and the rave reviews coming out of practice, just not good enough?

Again, Brady will be the OC after this coming season. It’s been hinted at and basically admitted without actually saying it pay sites writers per sources
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:30 am
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:28 am to
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You had never heard of a coach that had only been a position coach at william and mary and an assistant at the saints.
Stop. No on believes you knew who he was before getting hired here.
I'm an avid Saints fan, so yes, I've heard of him. For the record though, I don't give a shite if you believe me or not. You're a dumbass. That's clear.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:29 am to
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Or is Brady, and the rave reviews coming out of practice, just not good enough?




Of course it isn't good enough. We've heard this song before. I think it's stuck on repeat.
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