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re: O and E Need to Be Treated the Same Way They Treat the RT
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:59 pm to Drizzt
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:59 pm to Drizzt
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We are ranked top 10 and you guys bitch and moan like we are unranked.
I think any talk of firing is very premature, Drizz. But, you aren't the least bit concerned about the direction of the offense?
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:09 pm to TigrrrDad
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So you want to fire every coach who can’t outcoach and outrecruit Saban? Awesome plan.
Are you really that stupid? Do you really not get it? It’s not just being out coached by Saban. The offense is hot garbage. To look at and statistically. How do so many people choose to pretend this isn’t the case?
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:12 pm to Chet Donnely
Thank you, Chet, I'm not sure why these bastards are spinning it. The offense sucks. Ensminger is the OFFENSIVE Coordinator.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:16 pm to jgriffith
Unfortunately, there are those that are being assholes about calling out the OC, j. Then, there others that are concerned and want to discuss all the available options going forward and that includes keeping E in the conversation for me.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:18 pm to TigerLunatik
Yessir, my friend, this is a "DIVIDED" group. Reminds me of the country.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:22 pm to TigerLunatik
And there are those that equate realizing that our offense is terrible to wanting every coach on the team fired.
If one honestly doesnt already want a serious change on offense, then one is blind or in denial. Being ranked 7? Great. Would be ranked higher and wouldn’t have been just shutout if the offense wasn’t an archaic joke.
If one honestly doesnt already want a serious change on offense, then one is blind or in denial. Being ranked 7? Great. Would be ranked higher and wouldn’t have been just shutout if the offense wasn’t an archaic joke.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:41 pm to TigerLunatik
yes the offense this season is concerning and Coach O at the end of the season will evaluate the season. He will decide what he wants to do. It is his job riding on this. I don't see him firing Ensminger at the end of the season but who knows. If Ensminger sucks as bad as a good portion of the posters think and Coach O keeps him, then Coach O will probably be looking for a new job after next season.(unless the rest of this season completely falls apart such as losing to Ark, aTm and the bowl game, then he would be gone sooner). But retaining Ensminger or not is not as simple a decision as a lot of these posters want to make it out to be for a lot of reasons.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:45 pm to boxcar willie
Remember how during the past offseason everyone agreed the decision to hire E as OC would be the decision that Os job was riding on?
It’s time people start acknowledging it was an awful decision.
It’s time people start acknowledging it was an awful decision.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:47 pm to boxcar willie
I'm not so sure firing Ensminger is even the right thing to do. If that were to happen every coach recruiting against LSU can point to it and say it shows Orgeron has no idea what he's doing because he can even higher an OC. Then, you're talking about a 3rd new offense to learn in as many years. But, I will say of one the slam dunk guys is willing to come be the new OC, I think you have to consider it.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:58 pm to Chet Donnely
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If one honestly doesnt already want a serious change on offense, then one is blind or in denial. Being ranked 7? Great. Would be ranked higher and wouldn’t have been just shutout if the offense wasn’t an archaic joke.
but that has to be weighed against wanting some continuity, especially with what we have returning on offense, instead of having 3 coordinators in 3 years in his 3rd season as 'HC. I don't think LSU can afford to have a new coordinator stumble out the gates with a new offense in 2019 so if coach O hired a new OC he is going to have to have the offense running on all cylinders right away or we could be looking at a new OC and HC in 2020. I know some of ya'll would like that, but that means we would be starting all over again, once again.
But yes a new young smart up and coming (or a not so young been there done that coach) OC for the 2019 season is an exciting idea if we can find one and coach O would have enough confidence in him, that he could have the offense ready to go right out the gates in 2019, to let Ensminger go and hire him.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:02 pm to TigerLunatik
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If that were to happen every coach recruiting against LSU can point to it and say it shows Orgeron has no idea what he's doing because he can even higher an OC. Then, you're talking about a 3rd new offense to learn in as many years
yes it is not a good look at all. 3 OC's in 3 years does not breed confidence
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But, I will say of one the slam dunk guys is willing to come be the new OC, I think you have to consider it.
holy shite, I am agreeing with all my
people tonight 
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:14 pm to boxcar willie
Anyone that is always only on one side of an issue regardless of the facts is a fool. Coach O has done some very, very good things as has Ensminger. We can nitpick and discuss, but I think people need to realize we all want what's best for LSU and that we aren't always going to agree with exactly what needs to be done to make LSU the best program possible.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:18 pm to Chet Donnely
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It’s time people start acknowledging it was an awful decision.
ONce Ensminger took over as OC in 2016 LSU averaged 464 ypg, I only looked up going back to 1998, so at least LSU's most prolific offense since 1998. Probably LSU's most prolific offense ever. so their is that.
Then their is the 2018 season which at 362 ypg (so far) is 6th worst out of the last 20 seasons. Their are a lot of reasons you could point to besides just pointing to Ensminger if you wanted to, but regardless, it should have been better. So their is that.
Next year will have a lot of experience returning on offense who now know Ensmingers offense, so whether you think the hiring was a good one or not, that needs to be considered also in deciding to move on from him or not.
Regardless of what you or I or anyone else thinks is the move to make, it is Orgerons job who is riding on it and he will make his decision, and all of us will watch and commentate on it. I think, at this point, we all want a good outcome the rest of this year and in the 2019 season.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:28 pm to LSUStar
The last one was her for over a decade before anyone wanted to fire his arse. The very first day this man had taken over people were firing him.
You people are a cancer to this program!
You people are a cancer to this program!
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:20 am to TigerLunatik
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I'm not so sure firing Ensminger is even the right thing to do
He needs a chance to get personnel in place, then if he fails he can be fired. The offense has been disappointing I thought that the offensive line would be at least average. Actually a little above average.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:00 am to bencoleman
Our QB has thrown 6 touchdown passes, Jesus Christ what else needs to be said...yes I understand we have a great defense and are 7-2
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 1:00 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:39 am to Pole142
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he's totally revamped the offense
Yeah, he revamped the offense into one of the worst offenses in cfb.
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we scored an average of almost 27 points a game.
good for 73rd in the country Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:17 pm to TigerLunatik
I think a good offensive line solves a lot of problems
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