re: No need to pile on Wade while he’s down

quote:

---

GeauxLSU4

---

quote:

---

Completely unqualified. Joe Burrow and Dave Aranda deserve a ton of credit for that title. His record every year outside of 2019 is who he is.

---

I disagree with the Wade critics however 2018 was a great season finishing 6th in the final poll.

The 2020 season started the collapse with multiple reasons and 2021 continued along the same lines. Actually with a few plays going LSU way the season could have been 8-4 or 9-3. A few of the loses we were in the games.

O's time was up, and he needed to go for sure but Wade in my opinion is starting something special

No need to compare the two constantly, to say O was unqualified is a false statement

quote:

---

Wade is very much qualified and has the ability to fix his problems.

---

Maybe he is and does, but there is no tangible proof of this to backup Wade if you're discrediting Orgeron.

Wade is all potential, not many skins on the wall yet.


I have no problem with Wade as the coach and still think he'll get it figured out, but let's be real here... there are a lot of fans that will line up to suck Wade's dick just because he beat the NCAA and the feds. That whole fiasco has led to some fans being more Team Wade than Team LSU. It's weird.

quote:

---

to say O was unqualified is a false statement

---

In what world was Ed Orgeron ever qualified to be the head football coach at LSU? We all agree 2019 was magical, however, if Woodward hired a coach with a record of 52-47, this fanbase would run him out of town. That is O’s record outside of 2019. That’s not acceptable at LSU.

quote:

---

there is no tangible proof of this to backup Wade if you're discrediting Orgeron.

---

Wade is winning at a football school and took over a basketball program in the gutter. That’s extremely hard to do and much different than the situation and circumstances Orgeron took over.

quote:

---

It was okay to pile on Orgeron who did win a national title but it is not okay to pile on Wade who has won basically nothing?

---

Orgeron is a freaking embicile who had no business being HC at LSU.

Thanks for 2019 but yeah, good riddance.

quote:

---

Wade is all potential, not many skins on the wall yet.


I have no problem with Wade as the coach and still think he'll get it figured out, but let's be real here... there are a lot of fans that will line up to suck Wade's dick just because he beat the NCAA and the feds. That whole fiasco has led to some fans being more Team Wade than Team LSU. It's weird.

---

This isn't 100%. Wade took over a program that had just posted its worst conference record ever. A program that had made just two NCAA Tournament appearances in the 11 years prior to his arrival. A program that had 4 losing seasons during that period. A program that had not made more that two consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances in nearly 25 years.

By year two he had won the SEC and led LSU to its best conference record and highest NCAAT seeding in nearly 40 years. LSU was likely going to make the NCAAT in 2020. They made it last season. And, though things are starting to get worrisome, is on pace to make it this season. That is a consistent level of winning the program has not experienced since the early 90's. That, more than anything, is why many defend him vigorously.

If Wade is "failing to meet expectations" it is only because he significantly raised those expectations relative to the state of the program for the 3 decades prior to his arrival. That, of course, doesn't mean he has been perfect, nor should be beyond reasonable criticism. But those wanting him to be fired because of the reason struggles are ridiculous.

Last year was the first season he probably underachieved at LSU. Not terribly. But that team should have been a bit better than they were. This season started out with the team OVERacheiving. They are now in a big slide. Much of the anger is coming from the fact they have fallen off from their early season success. You might say they were a victim of that success and unexpectedly raised expectations. Really, no different than the 2015 football season. LSU started out 7-0 vs a relatively weak schedule. They got up to #2 before coming crashing down at Alabama. They then lost the next two and fans went berserk with the AD trying to fire Miles. The reality is that LSU wasn't the 2nd best team in the country even before they played Alabama. They were overachieving a bit which raised expectations and made the regression harder to accept.

For whatever reason there seems to be no middle ground in the eyes of the fans with Wade. Either he is great and any degree of criticism is reflexively rejected. Or he is terrible and should have been fired yesterday. The fact is he has been a very solid coach...but not perfect. Still, I'll take someone who consistently wins over the prior 25 years which was nothing but short lived peaks coupled with huge valleys

quote:

---

there is no tangible proof of this to backup Wade if you're discrediting Orgeron.

Wade is winning at a football school and took over a basketball program in the gutter. That’s extremely hard to do and much different than the situation and circumstances Orgeron took over.

---

LSU struggled mightily another coach who could win after Dale Brown. I’d like to hang on to Wade for a while.