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NIL or TAF Donation Choice??

Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Cadieh
Member since Dec 2021
3 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:43 pm
So, why shouldn't we have a choice to donate to TAF or NIL during season ticket renewals etc? That would fix some of the shortfall.....
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57708 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:47 pm to
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So, why shouldn't we have a choice to donate to TAF or NIL during season ticket renewals etc? That would fix some of the shortfall.....


There’s already a TAF fee and the school can’t pay for NIL deals for players.
Posted by Origins of Asymmetry
Member since Feb 2022
724 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:48 pm to
Can you really donate to NIL though?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84876 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:52 pm to
If there was a collective to donate to NIL I would give to that.

No reason it isn’t possible, small donors have worked in politics for decades.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:54 pm to
It is unreal the amount of people on here who think the school is paying these deals.
Posted by NebraskaExPat
Member since Dec 2020
252 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Can you really donate to NIL though?



Each state has their own rules, but I think one constant is that the university cannot do it. I would think that having a part of a ticket price for NIL would be against the rules.
Posted by Cadieh
Member since Dec 2021
3 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:57 pm to
I didn't say ticket price- i said TAF contribution choice...
Posted by Idaho LSU Tiger
Boise
Member since Aug 2013
24 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 4:59 pm to
I don’t know about donations toward NIL. But it sure would be nice to know who makes up the contributors to LSU’s NIL so we can start sending all the damn business we can to them. I live in Idaho and I’m hiring Gordon for any of my legal shite going forward if I can!
Posted by Tigger98
Member since Oct 2020
913 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:00 pm to
Yeah, get boosters together with an Attorney and make it happen.
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3469 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:04 pm to
If tigerdroppings had a way to contribute to sponsoring NIL deals I would throw a few bills at it and I bet there are a lot of others who would as well.
Posted by Whodat1
Madisonville, LA
Member since Feb 2007
465 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

It is unreal the amount of people on here who think the school is paying these deals.


aTm has 33 Billion in endowments left to the university.
If you don't think that money just bought them the #1 recruiting class in the history of college football you are unreal.
Posted by NebraskaExPat
Member since Dec 2020
252 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:43 pm to
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aTm has 33 Billion in endowments left to the university.
If you don't think that money just bought them the #1 recruiting class in the history of college football you are unreal.



They didn't need to touch their endowment fund. The university didn't need to put out any funds at all.

The coaching staff identified to certain boosters the players they wanted. A point booster, in an organized system, coordinated the effort to get donors. The donors started an LLC to collect the money, target the recruit, and make payments when the recruit enrolls. The recruit doesn't get any money until he actually is on campus.

Despite the complaints of other universities, A&M did nothing illegal. Other universities are mostly upset because A&M has boosters who took the initiative and organized back when NIL became legal.

LSU could do the same. It takes dedicated and organized boosters. While LSU may not have the wealth of the A&M boosters, they do have a nationwide following and plenty of enthusiastic boosters.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1311 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:09 pm to
Because it’s a foundation. Can not pay for the benefit of an individual. Would lose all tax benefits for TAF and be out of business.

NIL is not pay for play. Schools can not participate. Title IX still applies. Supreme Court just said that NCAA can not prevent an athlete from making money.

Texas A&M will be on probation soon.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16420 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:42 pm to
Because TAF needs the money to pay off all of the overpaid contracts and buyouts of the last couple of years.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4858 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 7:38 am to
Was going to start a Gator Collective style organization.

Alabama has high tide traditions I think it’s called.

I think that’s what match point is attempting with the match point fund.
Posted by Hootie
BR
Member since Aug 2007
2125 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:47 am to
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Because it’s a foundation. Can not pay for the benefit of an individual. Would lose all tax benefits for TAF and be out of business.


These foundations, like Horns with a Heart, are not formed to benefit individuals. They are formed to support other non-profits by providing them (other non-profits) with athletic "NIL", which they (i.e., Horns with a Heart) hires and pays a "reasonable, market rate" compensation. Technically, that's not a violation of tax-exempt rules.
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
541 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:53 am to
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So, why shouldn't we have a choice to donate to TAF or NIL during season ticket renewals etc? That would fix some of the shortfall.....


Great idea. From a business standpoint a NIL contribution is an advertising expense which can be written off 100%. That's a big plus since charitable philanthropic contributions are restricted to a percentage that can be deducted from income.

For a small business sole proprietorship or S corp you are talking about having to make a very large TAF contribution to get a tax benefit. The standard deduction for a couple this year is $25,900. That means that if you give $25,900 to TAF this year you would get no tax benefit because its the same amount as the standard deduction you already get. You deduct the higher of $29,500 or your donation to TAF but not both.

You may have seen commercials for your southern chevy dealers or ford dealers. In the same way a cooperative could be formed for tiger businessmen where you could pool small amounts given by individuals for advertising to be used for NIL. This would be an advertising expense in addition to $25,900 standard deduction. The problem is how do you get philanthropic points for putting up NIL "advertising dollars" to the co-op. The answer is that TAF can do anything it wants. Your money to the advertising co-op could be treated as "box tops" or "coupons" redeemed by TAF for philanthropic points. Sort of like the old green stamps!

Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5314 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:03 am to
You can reach out and hire a player if you want - That's NIL. The school doesn't control NIL deals.

That said there are some NIL companies that are setting up 'go fund me' type or arrangements specific to a respective school. They're hiring athletes to rep and support the process.

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