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re: Next year at QB........my real concern that we're not really talking about
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:44 am to Alt26
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:44 am to Alt26
quote:Possibly.
Maybe BH just isn't as good as the fans think?
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It wouldn't be the first time the fanbase has overhyped a QB
Um, don't just blame the fans because it isn't just BH. If every QB we've recruited in the last 3 years is in fact, WORSE than AJ, our coaches have exhibited flat out incompetence in QB evaluation.
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:44 am to ShortyRob
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our depth is VERY problematic
true statement.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:45 am to SammyTiger
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There are very few programs out there that elite backup Qbs
Elite?
Um. There's a pretty wide gulf between "Elite" and "Borderline incompetent".
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:54 am to ShortyRob
This thread sucks arse. It's horrible. The entire premise is fricking garbage.
ShortyRob is worried about Jennings being the backup? WTF?!?!
Every QB who has come through LSU during Miles' tenure has improved over his career. Jennings is an 8-2 starter right now, and he was a horrible call, dropped pass, failed kickoff from being 9-1.
You're worried about an experienced backup QB who currently wins 80-90% of his games?
That's fricking nuts.
Was there a depth problem at the QB position when Lee was the backup in 2011? Oh please answer that question, ShortyRob.
ShortyRob is worried about Jennings being the backup? WTF?!?!
Every QB who has come through LSU during Miles' tenure has improved over his career. Jennings is an 8-2 starter right now, and he was a horrible call, dropped pass, failed kickoff from being 9-1.
You're worried about an experienced backup QB who currently wins 80-90% of his games?
That's fricking nuts.
Was there a depth problem at the QB position when Lee was the backup in 2011? Oh please answer that question, ShortyRob.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:58 am to Salviati
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Was there a depth problem at the QB position when Lee was the backup in 2011? Oh please answer that question, ShortyRob.
Um. yes.
It is still called a football "team" for a reason. You can be very mediocre at a position and still have a good team. That doesn't prevent you from saying you are very mediocre or bad at the given position.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:58 am to ShortyRob
AJ starts next year and is better than this year. BH gets one more season to learn "complex handoff, run right or left, offensive scheme" and therefore giving our backups one more year to develope. Problem solved
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:04 pm to ShortyRob
We have not seen anything from either player that would lead one to believe that we will have a capable starter next year, and your concern is that we will not have a capable backup?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:08 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Yeah, you're right. Lee was not good, but that's why he was the backup.quote:Um. yes.
Was there a depth problem at the QB position when Lee was the backup in 2011?
However, Lee was probably the best backup in the SEC. He won eight straight games and was very efficient. LSU also had Mett.
You're not going to find many, if any, teams that have two QBs who would be undefeated in SEC play. Elite QBs tend to go to teams that need elite QBs rather than going to teams that already have elited QBs.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:32 pm to Doby
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defensive lines will be basically gone.
Nah. We are losing 2 starters on D, both at DE. We return everyone else. Also, don't be surprised to see some 3 man fronts a decent amount of time with Valentine in the middle and players like DG, CL, Lewis Neal, Herron at DE. DLine will be a strength next year as our experienced DT's will eat up blocks allowing our less experienced DE's a lot of freedoms. Oline will be tricky, but until we see what we are facing, it's hard to speculate.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:33 pm to OceanMan
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It might be a better idea to let your kid that can do basic paddling, who can keep his head above water, practice in the deep end, while you keep the other one in the shallow end, a more controlled environment so he has a safety net.
I agree with you, except that the one with fins isn't even being let in the water. This has always been a major, inarguable fault, with Miles. He doesn't give the backups meaningful snaps with the game in hand. Harris should have played the majority of the second half against UK. He has a history of not doing that. "Let's send in mett to hand off repeatedly.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:39 pm to Salviati
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Every QB who has come through LSU during Miles' tenure has improved over his career
JJ's best season was his 1st full season as a starter (Sophomore).
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:42 pm to Salviati
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Every QB who has come through LSU during Miles' tenure has improved over his career. Jennings is an 8-2 starter right now, and he was a horrible call, dropped pass, failed kickoff from being 9-1.
I guess florida doesn't count?
And had he started Auburn that would have been another loss.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:47 pm to Salmon
Yes he should be well versed at handing off over the left side of the center.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:48 pm to keeper05
I think it's a matter of development. A player can develop maturity only in the face of adversity. If you don't learn to succeed through adverse conditions, it is questionable as to where the person or team has achieved success. The difference between AJ and BH is that one has a little more maturity than the other. BH had a "zeal without knowledge" and "caved in" to the hostile environment at Auburn. It's important to have a settled individual leading a team--talent and leadership at times don't intersect, but mature leadership is one of the keys to having a great team. Talent alone isn't good enough to get the job done. Teamwork with good leadership does.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:54 pm to Salviati
Well then LSU shouldn't have any trouble recruiting an elite QB cuz they sure don't have one now
Posted on 11/13/14 at 1:17 pm to keeper05
quote:Wrong. His best season was his fourth year (Senior).
JJ's best season was his 1st full season as a starter (Sophomore).
Posted on 11/13/14 at 1:23 pm to tigerborderjumper
quote:Have you seen LSU's QB commits and recruits for 2016?
Well then LSU shouldn't have any trouble recruiting an elite QB cuz they sure don't have one now
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:03 pm to ShortyRob
McMillan is the starter next year book it.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:19 pm to ShortyRob
I agree but qbs don't ride the pine. They transfer. LSU and USC are the only teams in my recent memory that had a solid 3rd option. Rp was 3rd string, Flynn at one point was 3rd string, Mett at one point was 3rd string.
If Winston was suspended, fsu wouldn't keep winning against shitty opposition. He has carried that team.
If Winston was suspended, fsu wouldn't keep winning against shitty opposition. He has carried that team.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:42 pm to Salviati
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Have you seen LSU's QB commits and recruits for 2016?
how does that help us now? It will 4/5 years before those recruits start paying dividends. In the meantime, well....you know.
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