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New NET Rankings....LSU falls
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:07 am
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:07 am
16
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:07 am to dchotard
damn
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:09 am to dchotard
Hahahahahaha what
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:10 am to Mr6daveyobrians
It's strange how this metric works, but then again it's only a guide to the committee... LSU is solidly a 3 seed if the season ended today imo
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:11 am to Tigerfan7218
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It's strange how this metric works,
How does it work?
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:12 am to dchotard
Damn,good thing we didn't lose at UK, NET would have us NIT bound
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:12 am to Y.A. Tittle
NET hates LSU.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:20 am to dchotard
What's interesting about NET is that I can't find anything online that shows what the actual NET formula is. We know the components but not how much each component is weighted. Also can't find the formula for Team Value Index.
Maybe it's out there but I've been unable to locate it.
Maybe it's out there but I've been unable to locate it.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:20 am to dchotard
It's because they play a close game against a bad UGA team. LSU's defensive efficiency number, which had risen significantly in wins over Auburn and, most importantly, UK, both very good offensive teams, dropped significantly after a poor defensive performance vs. UGA, a bad offensive team.
The good news is that the metrics and NET really like Florida even though UF's record isn't great and they are a bubble team. And it goes without saying that Tennessee is very good.
2-0 this week should bump LSU right back into the top 15, perhaps even higher than 12 depending on how other games shake out.
Playing a team like UGA is really a no-win situation (except the only silver lining is it's another road win). A win doesn't help LSU's metric rankings really at all, while a loss would have been very bad. Luckily, LSU only has two more of those games on the schedule: A&M and Vandy (even though A&M isn't THAT bad for metric purposes)
The good news is that the metrics and NET really like Florida even though UF's record isn't great and they are a bubble team. And it goes without saying that Tennessee is very good.
2-0 this week should bump LSU right back into the top 15, perhaps even higher than 12 depending on how other games shake out.
Playing a team like UGA is really a no-win situation (except the only silver lining is it's another road win). A win doesn't help LSU's metric rankings really at all, while a loss would have been very bad. Luckily, LSU only has two more of those games on the schedule: A&M and Vandy (even though A&M isn't THAT bad for metric purposes)
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:22 am to burdman
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What's interesting about NET is that I can't find anything online that shows what the actual NET formula is.
Not even will wade knows what the formula is. They have a stats guy trying to figure it out and even he can’t.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:25 am to dchotard
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:26 am to The Pirate King
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Not even will wade knows what the formula is. They have a stats guy trying to figure it out and even he can’t.
Pretty crazy that the formula for a key factor in tournament seeding is completely unknown.
ETA: unless that was sarcasm
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 11:27 am
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:27 am to Y.A. Tittle
It’s broken if we drop after the week and season we’ve had. Point blank. This is why humans are the best option in sports polling and why the BCS failed. It’s just ridiculous to have some insanely complicated algorithm that can’t get simple rankings movements correct
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:28 am to burdman
It’s proprietary to the NCAA. No one knows. Hopefully they will share next year.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:28 am to dchotard
Numbers geeks have killed MLB and they'll kill CBB.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:31 am to Jim Rockford
I would submit that any sports metric that penalizes a win IN ANY MANNER is inherently flawed.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:33 am to LSUgrad08112
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It’s broken if we drop after the week and season we’ve had. Point blank. This is why humans are the best option in sports polling and why the BCS failed. It’s just ridiculous to have some insanely complicated algorithm that can’t get simple rankings movements correct
If humans were the best option then why did they have us ranked below NET before today? Humans can’t possibly factor in all the aspects NET can, they had us ranked higher than the polls by 5 spots, so they already accounted for us being a good team. UK road win just didn’t move the needle as much and we played poorly against UGA.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:35 am to barry
A win is a win. Metrics penalizing a team for a "bad win" is no different than talking heads and their "eyeball test."
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:36 am to dchotard
Our efficiency numbers, particularly on D, are probably what’s bringing us down (my guess).
We aren’t winning any games big. Seems like outside of 2-3 games, every SEC game has been close. And yeah, we are winning them but close games aren’t doing anything to help our efficiency metrics for NET. Particularly OT games, which we’ve had a few of. And some of these close games have come against bad teams.
We aren’t winning any games big. Seems like outside of 2-3 games, every SEC game has been close. And yeah, we are winning them but close games aren’t doing anything to help our efficiency metrics for NET. Particularly OT games, which we’ve had a few of. And some of these close games have come against bad teams.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:38 am to Jim Rockford
LSU's RPI is currently #4.
Bad year for the NCAA to drop the RPI I guess.
Just keep winning and everything will take care of itself.
Bad year for the NCAA to drop the RPI I guess.
Just keep winning and everything will take care of itself.
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