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re: nevermind
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:11 am to Tiger Ree
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:11 am to Tiger Ree
How many shadow staff members does O need?
How many did fricking Troy and Miss st or Norte Dame have?
You can’t pretend like faults from 2 years ago don’t matter for E when he only got this job because his time as interim OC.
If all anyone has to go off of is 8 games were gonna look at all 8 fricking games.
You’re not right about anything. You just show up and lick Os nuts and then disappear for a week after a loss like a little bitch.
How many did fricking Troy and Miss st or Norte Dame have?
You can’t pretend like faults from 2 years ago don’t matter for E when he only got this job because his time as interim OC.
If all anyone has to go off of is 8 games were gonna look at all 8 fricking games.
You’re not right about anything. You just show up and lick Os nuts and then disappear for a week after a loss like a little bitch.
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:21 am to SammyTiger
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1. They had a winning season in 2000 so that’s not a good point.
Yes they did. My bad.
It was their fifth in division 1-A. They had a 3-3 conference record. LSU/Saban joined Chattanooga, ULL and Middle Tennessee State as UAB's OOC wins. Hell of a talented group of teams to be associated with.
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I’ve made my point very clear that it was worst to lose to Troy.
And I've made my point that it wasn't. When you throw in Alabama's loss to ULM it is much worse.
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You know who Saban beat in 2001 to win the SEC championship?
#2 Tennessee
Well whoop-de-freaking-doo. Had to play Tennessee. Wow !!!
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You’re a coward.
How so? You cry like a little bitch and think I am a coward? Reasonable.
If you are being insulted by losing an argument, up your debate game, no need for throwing personal insults and it won't help sway opinion.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:25 am to SportTiger1
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Until SLINGER actually accomplishes something, he does not count as a positive.
So you disagree with the Oline coach hire? The new safeties coach hire? The new passing game coordinator hire? The new special teams coordinator hire?
Yeah I disagree. I don't like hiring all these guys with NFL experience. It probably won't go over too well with recruits.
Second paragraph above contains sarcasm for the idiots of the board.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:26 am to The Baker
You mean the culture of winning and accountability even for the stars? The culture of heart and never quitting established by one of the only honest coaches in the SEC?
You damn fools. I'm only in my 20's but I grew up hearing Hallman Horror Stories, and that's where we're headed. We fired the greatest coach in LSU history - it wasn't Cholly Mac, it wasn't Satan, it was Les. Joe Alleva fricked us in ways that can't even be comprehended right now.
You damn fools. I'm only in my 20's but I grew up hearing Hallman Horror Stories, and that's where we're headed. We fired the greatest coach in LSU history - it wasn't Cholly Mac, it wasn't Satan, it was Les. Joe Alleva fricked us in ways that can't even be comprehended right now.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:28 am to Tiger Ree
You’re the biggest bitch poster on this board. You disappear after loses and push fence posts.
You told everyone that they were overreacting to a 10 win season before the Norte Dame game and then crawfished faster than anyone I’ve ever seen while you threw Aranda and Jackson under the bus.
You told everyone we would land a top 10 class and then told everyone we really got underrated players when we were no where close.
You told me the SEC was easier in 2001 but you have no real response when I point Out Tennessee was a on it’s way to a second BCS game when we upset them in the SEC championship game.
You’re a shite poster. I am Not upset, I love Shitting on your crap posts.
Literally this board wouldn’t be half as fun without people like you to stir shut up. If you understand that then bless you for taking all this abuse to make the rant at least interesting, but you could troll smarter.
You told everyone that they were overreacting to a 10 win season before the Norte Dame game and then crawfished faster than anyone I’ve ever seen while you threw Aranda and Jackson under the bus.
You told everyone we would land a top 10 class and then told everyone we really got underrated players when we were no where close.
You told me the SEC was easier in 2001 but you have no real response when I point Out Tennessee was a on it’s way to a second BCS game when we upset them in the SEC championship game.
You’re a shite poster. I am Not upset, I love Shitting on your crap posts.
Literally this board wouldn’t be half as fun without people like you to stir shut up. If you understand that then bless you for taking all this abuse to make the rant at least interesting, but you could troll smarter.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:29 am to Tiger Ree
I'm going to list a few coaching positions and you tell me which is by far the most important to the success of a football team...
Oline
Safeties
Passing game coord
Special teams
Off coordinator
Oline
Safeties
Passing game coord
Special teams
Off coordinator
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:30 am to Tiger Ree
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When you throw in Alabama's loss to ULM it is much worse.
Not really when you consider what Saban inherited here and at Alabama versus what O did.
You act like O came in following a 6-7 season.
The only time Miles ever lost a regular season OOC game was to a top-10 team on the road in his twelvth season as coach. And he was fired largely because of it.
Bottom line, I would take Les with nearly any OC over O.
Even Les and Cam put up 600+ yards against awful defenses, so let's not pretend that the Missouri game in 16 was some kind of miracle.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:33 am to SammyTiger
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How many shadow staff members does O need?
How many did fricking Troy and Miss st or Norte Dame have?
Probably just as many as LSU had, especially "Norte Dame" if you are talking about Notre Dame. LSU is just now catching up with the rest of college football in staffing regards.
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You can’t pretend like faults from 2 years ago don’t matter for E when he only got this job because his time as interim OC
Never said they don't matter. Yes, I think his successful stint as the interim OC played a large role in him getting the permanent gig. Is that not good?
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If all anyone has to go off of is 8 games were gonna look at all 8 fricking games
Then why the hell don't you? I have only seen two of the 8 games mentioned. Why don't you bring up and discuss the other 6 like you "fricking" say you will?
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You’re not right about anything. You just show up and lick Os nuts and then disappear for a week after a loss like a little bitch.
I was just gone for almost two weeks again. Are you going to mention that? Today is my first day back. Did LSU lose? Is that why I was gone?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:35 am to Tiger Ree
I like Cregg
And I dont Hate Busch as a safeties coach, but do we need a fricking safeties coach?
We didn’t have one in 2003, 2007, 2011 or fricking ever and we’ve had some pretty fricking good safeties.
Couldn’t we maybe hire a QB coach instead? I know Out TE coach is not coaching QBs but isn’t that a position that could use all the help it can get?
Also I dont love Sullivan as anything besides a position coach. That’s whats he’s done for 40 years. He was an OC 1 time and failed.
I think Our we will have better techniques, but I feel Like having 2 WR coaches is again a waste of staff space.
The position we have been weakest at over the years is QB. One of our strongest positions over the years has been safety.
We got an extra staff position and hired... a safeties coach. I know This was probably to appease Aranda but frick we gave him 2.5 million dollars. He needs a safeties coach too?
And I dont Hate Busch as a safeties coach, but do we need a fricking safeties coach?
We didn’t have one in 2003, 2007, 2011 or fricking ever and we’ve had some pretty fricking good safeties.
Couldn’t we maybe hire a QB coach instead? I know Out TE coach is not coaching QBs but isn’t that a position that could use all the help it can get?
Also I dont love Sullivan as anything besides a position coach. That’s whats he’s done for 40 years. He was an OC 1 time and failed.
I think Our we will have better techniques, but I feel Like having 2 WR coaches is again a waste of staff space.
The position we have been weakest at over the years is QB. One of our strongest positions over the years has been safety.
We got an extra staff position and hired... a safeties coach. I know This was probably to appease Aranda but frick we gave him 2.5 million dollars. He needs a safeties coach too?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:36 am to Tiger Ree
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Then why the hell don't you? I have only seen two of the 8 games mentioned. Why don't you bring up and discuss the other 6 like you "fricking" say you will?
That's because the other 6 were against God-awful teams that LSU would have beaten with me as coach.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:42 am to Tiger Ree
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Probably just as many as LSU had, especially "Norte Dame" if you are talking about Notre Dame. LSU is just now catching up with the rest of college football in staffing regards.
Buuuuuulll shite
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Never said they don't matter. Yes, I think his successful stint as the interim OC played a large role in him getting the permanent gig. Is that not good?
It’s not if the success was only against shitty teams. Which is was.
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Then why the hell don't you? I have only seen two of the 8 games mentioned. Why don't you bring up and discuss the other 6 like you "fricking" say you will?
Because playing bama is a better indicator of ability that shellacking fricking 3-8 Missouri.
I am So pumped E can beat creampuffs but we shite the bed when it came to playing a team with a fricking pulse. “It was only his 4th week” that’s not what you were saying when we ran for 400 yards vs a shitty Missouri.
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I was just gone for almost two weeks again. Are you going to mention that? Today is my first day back. Did LSU lose? Is that why I was gone?
I am Sure you disappeared after Troy for totally unrelated reasons. Sure thing there Tiger Ree.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:45 am to Philippines4LSU
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Not really when you consider what Saban inherited here and at Alabama versus what O did
You are saying that a 4-6 ULM that had beaten Grambling by 7 points the week before to get to 4 wins was also 7 ponts better than Alabama. That Bama team beat ULM 41-7 the year before. Were they more talented than Bama?
AND the ULM loss was the 11th game of the season for the Tide.
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You act like O came in following a 6-7 season.
I am? I thought I was just pointing out that no matter how you slice, dice or chop it LSU was more talented than UAB and Alabama was more talented than ULM and shouldn't have lost those games.
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The only time Miles ever lost a regular season OOC game was to a top-10 team on the road in his twelvth season as coach. And he was fired largely because of it.
He was "largely" fired for it? Even though he was let go after the Auburn game? The one where the LSU players were celebrating the win only to find out that once again the clock had expired before their game winning touchdown.
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Bottom line, I would take Les with nearly any OC over O.
So. More power to you with your seemingly great life choices.
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Even Les and Cam put up 600+ yards against awful defenses, so let's not pretend that the Missouri game in 16 was some kind of miracle.
Miracle? It is an all-time LSU record. There were many other coordinators including two who were part of NC winning LSU teams and Slinger holds the record.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:49 am to Tiger Ree
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He was "largely" fired for it? Even though he was let go after the Auburn game? The one where the LSU players were celebrating the win only to find out that once again the clock had expired before their game winning touchdown.
So had les won the wisky game and lost to auburn the way they did, you think he would've been fired immediately be side of one loss?
You really do argue just to argue some times.
Answer my question which coaching spot is the most important...i know you saw it
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:57 am to Tiger Ree
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There were many other coordinators including two who were part of NC winning LSU teams and Slinger holds the record.
What record?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:13 am to Tiger Ree
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the Auburn game? The one where the LSU players were celebrating the win only to find out that once again the clock had expired before their game winning touchdown.
The one where between 20 and 30 seconds ran off the clock the final drive before the last play, a play which should have stood any way you slice it.
If you're gonna look at replay look at the clock on first downs and runs OOB.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 3:42 am to Tiger Ree
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Do you make derogatory posts every day bashing Saban for losing to UAB? Why not?
When Saban and Miles were the head coaches did you spend days on end defending them from any bit of criticism that was thrown their way, like you do for o? Why not?
Did you submit post after post making up excuses for the things they did wrong, like you do for o? Why not?
Did you absolve those two coaches of all wrongdoing the way you do o? Why not?
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 3:56 am
Posted on 7/27/18 at 4:56 am to Tiger Ree
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Zeier and Hearst describe a system most similar to the West Coast offense
While USC is in California. And California is on the West Coast. USC did not run the West Coast Offense.
It is true that Pete Carroll holds Bill Walsh in very high regard and has stated on numerous occasions that he has tried to model himself after Walsh as a HC AND has indeed taken elements of his Offense (most notably trying to make QB play succeed in part based on a route tree and read progression that is understandable and executable—some call “easy or easier reads”—something every OC says now btw) he didn’t run the West Coast Offense at USC.
Think Reggie Bush/LenDale White v Roger Craig/Tom Rathman. Totally different.
Further Steve was the Passing Game Coordinator at UGA not the OC and while he did call some plays was not the primary play caller and it was 1993!!!!
1993. 1993. 1993. A quarter century ago.
I hope Steve kills it as the OC here. But my point stands. He has never run the USC offense O claims he wishes to run and he hasn’t been a full time OC and play caller this century.
Repetition and experience as the primary play caller and game planner matters. People get better by doing it. Not by not doing it for the most part over 2 decades or a quarter century from his time at UGA not being the OC or primary play caller.
I watched Steve play. I went to his games. I want LSU alums to succeed and want Steve specifically to succeed. I lived and went to HS in Central. I am an Ensminger fan.
But again he hasn’t been an OC in nearly 20 years and he hasn’t run the offense O says he wants to run. Hell don’t take my word. Take O’s. He has even said Steve’s offense (as they install it) is “more like” what he wants to run.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 5:27 am to Tiger Ree
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LSU/Saban joined Chattanooga, ULL and Middle Tennessee State as UAB's OOC wins. Hell of a talented group of teams to be associated with.
Teams Troy beat (they were not ranked at any point in the season):
Akron
Idaho
Coastal Carolina
North Texas
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Alabama State
New Mexico State
Texas State
Arkansas State
LOUISIANA STATE
“Hell of a talented group of teams to be associated with”
Lost to:
Boise State
South Alabama
Maybe next Sun Belt team O plays he can shoot to be included in this list instead
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You know who Saban beat in 2001 to win the SEC championship?
#2 Tennessee
Well whoop-de-freaking-doo. Had to play Tennessee. Wow !!!
Wait, are you criticizing the 2001 schedule??
We played Tennessee TWICE and also played Florida who finished #3 and #4 respectively.
Did five conference opponents fire their coaches in 2001??
The fact that you keep talking about Saban losing to UAB or ULM is so sad.
He’s kind of done a few things since then to put those in the rear view. If O does what Saban did in Year 2 and beyond no one will mention Troy again either (assuming he doesn’t also get stomped by MSU again)
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 5:30 am
Posted on 7/27/18 at 5:30 am to Tiger Ree
quote:Because inheriting a program that hadn't had a losing season in 17 years is the same as taking over one that had 8 in it's last 11.
And still managed to lose to a UAB team ....... Is that bad on Saban or not so bad on Eaux?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 6:10 am to Dave England
That was ten or 15 years ago. O took over a pathetic Ole Miss program. He is 15 and 6 with LSU. If Guice and Jackson do not screw up Florida and ND he would be 17 and 4.
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