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re: Negatigers & Positigers: let's meet in the middle with this article:
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:46 am to Choupique19
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:46 am to Choupique19
quote:I'm pretty sure I am and most of the executive types a Louisiana State University. Ya know, the people that call the shots and pay the money?
You sure about that?
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:47 am to ballscaster
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The writer constantly refers to LSU's football team as "we," so already it isn't even journalism.
that's what kept standing out to me. I didn't think it was a great article. I thought it was written by a negatiger who was TRYING to sound neutral, but failing. jmo
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:48 am to Choupique19
quote:That's a hard question to answer. I can say that the articles to which you are casually referring do not represent the population of people I've met around the country and around the world who know about LSU football.
So how is he rated too low when as you say, "virtually everyone outside of Baton Rouge realizes that Les is a top tier coach"?
You'd be surprised how many people in New York City are LSU football fans, if not specifically because they hate Alabama. After all, who beats Alabama more often than LSU in our lifetime?
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:49 am to ballscaster
Ballcaster, answer this one:
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College football is largely a talent game. Recruit the best, win the most. If we're producing the highest volume of NFL talent on a yearly basis, something we love to tout, then why shouldn't we routinely be among the five best teams in college football?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:51 am to Tigerinthehollow
I have no problem with the use of "we".
I disagree.
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I thought it was written by a negatiger who was TRYING to sound neutral, but failing. jmo
I disagree.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:52 am to ballscaster
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Virtually everyone outside Baton Rouge realizes that Les Miles is a top-tier coach, one of the greatest coaches in the past decade,
What planet do you live on? Or at least what state do you live in? Those of us who don't live inside the bubble of Baton Rouge KNOW that no one in the SEC fears this coach. Most think of him as a program manager with no plan that survives by the skin of his teeth and says funny shite like Yogi Bera. They know his strategy and his tendencies. He's as easy to ready and figure out as a high school coach. His game day planning and preparation are highly questionable and his QB's rarely if ever present a threat. They do know he's a nice guy and a stand up citizen, but that really doesn't have anything to do with his coaching prowess. Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:52 am to Tigerinthehollow
quote:I got that feeling as well. I understand that offensive statistics, as far as yards gained and whatnot, are very important, but they certainly are not important in the face of the win loss percentage that Les Miles has compiled. The bottom line favors Miles, and to the writer's credit, he does knowledge that, but he conspicuously fails to actually cite the win/loss totals, which we all agree to be without a doubt the most important statistic there is.
I thought it was written by a negatiger who was TRYING to sound neutral, but failing. jmo
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:53 am to crookedicat
More jems:
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If we're going to tout the number of players we place in the NFL, we must also acknowledge our failure to capitalize on such talent.
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When fans complain about 10 win seasons not being "enough", it's not wholly myopic. If it is, then it's a position endorsed by our own head coach, who routinely declares that his team will play "championship level football."
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:54 am to SabiDojo
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I disagree.
certainly your right to do so....as I said...jmo.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:54 am to crookedicat
The question assumes that LSU is not regularly one of the top five programs in the country, which, of course, it is.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:55 am to Tigerinthehollow
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certainly your right to do so....as I said...jmo.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:55 am to Tiger_n_ATL
Big fricking EXACTLY:
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Most think of him as a program manager with no plan that survives by the skin of his teeth and says funny shite like Yogi Bera. They know his strategy and his tendencies. He's as easy to ready and figure out as a high school coach. His game day planning and preparation are highly questionable and his QB's rarely if ever present a threat. They do know he's a nice guy and a stand up citizen, but that really doesn't have anything to do with his coaching prowess.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:56 am to ballscaster
so if LSU is going to keep losing 10 players to the draft each year, why not oversign?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:57 am to ballscaster
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Les Miles is a top-tier coach
Meh
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one of the greatest coaches in the past decade
I'd love to see your list
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the most successful coach in history of LSU football
only because of longevity
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and the only coach who is proven to be able to beat Nick Saban with any type of consistency
What's his record against Saban? Like 2-5? That is some unrivaled consistency right there.
PS - I won't count the 2007 saban-miles game because obviously that was saban's first season and he didn't have any of his players yet, and played against all the players he recruited.)
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:58 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:NYC.
What planet do you live on? Or at least what state do you live in?
quote:It's funny how you coyly accuse a person of being provincial when he lives in the city that is 20 times bigger than the one in which you live.
Those of us who don't live inside the bubble of Baton Rouge
quote:So feel free to post all those coaches' winning records against Les Miles.
He's as easy to ready and figure out as a high school coach.
Flat on your face, buddy.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:59 am to monsterballads
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everyone outside of baton rouge thinks miles is a blabbering grass eating idiot.
to give you some perspective.
Let me help give you some perspective....
You are completely wrong on this..
Sure, there are some people who have this view. Certainly the media likes to present him in this light because its entertaining.
Most, (not all) the people I know from across the nation (referring to non LSU fans...) view him with a great deal of respect because of his record at LSU and the state of the program overall.
I found this article to be spot on and balanced. The questions are legit without ignoring Coach Miles past accomplishments.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:00 pm to 2007lsuno1
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I'm pretty sure I am and most of the executive types a Louisiana State University. Ya know, the people that call the shots and pay the money?
This I don't doubt. I have no doubt that Les Miles isn't about the be fired. He's ours for the foreseeable future. I just wish he'd adjust in a few areas.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:00 pm to okietiger
We don't need your kind of rational clear headed thinkers here mister! We expect to have every poster use as little thought as possible!
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:00 pm to ballscaster
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I got that feeling as well. I understand that offense of statistics, as far as yards gained and whatnot, are very important, but they certainly are not important in the face of the win loss percentage that Les Miles was compiled. The bottom line favors Miles, and to the writer's credit, he does knowledge that, but he conspicuously fails to actually cite the win/loss totals, which we all agree to be without a doubt the most important statistic there is.
the type of offense that Miles runs is not a type that is going to ever put up flashy numbers...it just isn't. It is a ball control, dominating type of offense, when executed correctly. This style of football, when ran correctly, eventually wears down the opposing defense, and also keeps the ball out of the opposing team's offense.......This is why spread/uptempo type teams haven't typically fared well against LSU....those teams typically have weak defenses, or defenses that get tired easily because their own offense is not on the field as long. LSU attacks that aspect, controls the ball, rests the defense, and after a few stops of the up-tempo team.....while LSU pounds the ball....game is essentially over. Again, we aren't at the level to execute properly right now...but it's coming, and this team will be a much better team even by the end of this year....there will be a lot of crow to be eaten on here....but those same negatigers will have their excuses ready....
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:00 pm to ballscaster
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The question assumes that LSU is not regularly one of the top five programs in the country, which, of course, it is.
This is a complete lie.
We have finished in the top 5 twice in the last 8 years.
Thats is not "regularly".
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