Negatigers & Positigers: let's meet in the middle with this article:

Excellent article.

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Here is the average season for a Les Miles recruited and developed QB:

120/202 attempts, 57.6%, 1,550 yards, 7.2 YPA, 11 TDs, 6 INTs.

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I'm going to cry now.

yea those stats are horrible

Cameron will increase the completion ratio

You are for LSU football and recruiting or you are against it, there is no middle ground ! Geaux Les and the Tigers

It's a perfectly good message board post, but it is a bad article. The writer constantly refers to LSU's football team as "we," so already it isn't even journalism. There is one point the writer makes, however, that sticks out to me:

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Miles' seat is not even slightly warm right now. And it shouldn't be. The point of this isn't to proclaim that Les Miles should be fired. That's silliness. The point is that there are problems. And problems not limited to 2014's team. Issues we've seen occur in the past. Every program has them, yes, so the question is how to address them?

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Literally every "sunshine pumper" agrees with this 100%. The very reason that anyone would ever call any LSU fans "sunshine pumpers" is because we are responding to the pure drivel of the weak, inferior minds who would have Les Miles fired right now. The truth is that the only place on earth where I ever defend Les Miles at all is on this board. Why? Because this is the only place in my daily life where I find people who want him fired immediately. Virtually everyone outside Baton Rouge realizes that Les Miles is a top-tier coach, one of the greatest coaches in the past decade, the most successful coach in history of LSU football, and the only coach who is proven to be able to beat Nick Saban with any type of consistency. Those same people outside Baton Rouge who realize all these things about Les Miles, including myself, see that there are obvious concerns with this years football team. And I say, thank goodness that we have Les Miles, who has proven to be able to right the ship and take the team all the way to the national championship game. That is the kind of coach you want for your football team.

Yeah the loss of 38 players and weak QB play is why we currently are in this mess.

BUT, Miles was able to flip the script after 2008-2009. 2010-2011 really were great years overall. 2012-2013 were pretty good.

Let's see if Miles can flip the script again.

These are money:

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Anthony Jennings ranks in the bottom three in the SEC in passer rating. He's completing barely above 50% of his passes. Brandon Harris has yet to do anything of note in the throes of a competitive game vs. a meaningful opponent, and completely imploded when given the starting nod. Yet Kentucky can start a guy with only 40 career attempts, who is completing 63.4 percent of his passes at an 8.1 clip, while beating superior teams. What gives?

There's also the issue of whether or not we deploy our best personnel. Could Harris' implosion Saturday have been prevented by preparing him as the starter from day one, starting him against Wisconsin and the ensuing cupcakes? I'd have to think it'd at least have mitigated it to some degree. Why is Leonard Fournette suddenly the 4th back off the bench, despite clearly being the most productive? Why does D.J. Welter continue to be trotted on the field? I don't have the answers, and I'm not saying there aren't perfectly good ones. But that doesn't make the questions any less legitimate.

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Virtually everyone outside Baton Rouge realizes that Les Miles is a top-tier coach

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everyone outside of baton rouge thinks miles is a blabbering grass eating idiot.

to give you some perspective.

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Let's see if Miles can flip the script again.

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Previous results suggest that this can happen again. No previous results suggest the opposite.

We sunshine pumpers have the convenience of deducing that it is somewhat likely that LSU will soon again ascend to the throne under its current regime.

Negatigers only speculate that Miles' best days are behind him.

In terms of the scientific method, we are in the second round of the testing phase, and the negatigers are lagging in the hypothesis and prediction phases. We are ahead of them logically since we put more reasonable thought into our opinions.