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re: NCAAT lock, 4 seed SECT, double bye!!!

Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:27 pm to
Our quality road wins trump any other possible bubble teams. Lock.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37203 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:31 pm to
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Drizz, I'm not saying you are wrong necessarily.

But back up your statement instead of just saying I'm wrong.

Answer me this: What evidence do you have that proves we are a lock??
2-1 vs. RPI top 25.
5-2 vs. RPI top 50.

Every expert bracket (not me) had LSU in prior to beating the 15 RPI team on the road today.

It's a done deal, just relax and accept it.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:31 pm to
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Our quality road wins trump any other possible bubble teams. Lock.


I hope you're right. We also have some tough losses too.

If we lose to A&M for a third time, I am not confident we will get in. I will be nervous as f*ck during the selection show, and I think a lot of you will be too.

Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37203 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:36 pm to
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I hope you're right. We also have some tough losses too.
The teams LSU beat is immensely more important than the teams we lost to.

The selection committee has mentioned this in their criteria.

@WVU and @Ark is better than any other "bubble team" for the most part. And LSU isn't on the bubble anymore.

Those wins along with UM 2x and UGA make an impressive resume.

If you're an SEC team worried about making the NCAAT, your name is TAMU.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6209 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:39 pm to
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El Campo Tiger


We're dancing, beb!!

Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:40 pm to
LSU finishes 4th in the SEC with road wins against West Virginia and Arkansas. A sweep against Ole Miss and a near miss win against Kentucky.

22 wins and 11 wins in SEC should put us in the dance.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37203 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:42 pm to
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If we lose to A&M for a third time, I am not confident we will get in.
Just for this point, if you don't mind.

If TAMU beats LSU a third time and the selection committee is valuing TAMU vs. LSU, the only thing on TAMU's resume is that they can beat LSU. They have literally beaten no one else of consequence.

The SEC is still getting 5 teams minimum. The only thing TAMU can do at this point is become the 6th SEC team in the NCAAT.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56564 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 10:54 pm to
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If we lose to A&M on Friday (2:30pm tip), we probably are going to the NIT.



no
Posted by CarterWilson717
If I told you, you would be dead
Member since Jun 2013
1518 posts
Posted on 3/7/15 at 11:15 pm to
Such a troll job.

El dumbo,
Please give me your bank account details cuz I'll gladly direct deposit my check to your account if LSU doesn't go dancing. Book it!
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32014 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 6:26 am to
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What makes you think we are a lock?

If we lose to A&M on Friday (2:30pm tip), we probably are going to the NIT.



lulz
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:30 am to
Frick it!! I'm daring to believe again! Was on the ledge for a while but......
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7353 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 9:43 am to
I think it is tough to say lock because of some of the mid major upsets pulling away dance tickets. Kind of worries me.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28386 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:38 am to
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If TAMU beats LSU a third time and the selection committee is valuing TAMU vs. LSU, the only thing on TAMU's resume is that they can beat LSU. They have literally beaten no one else of consequence.

The SEC is still getting 5 teams minimum. The only thing TAMU can do at this point is become the 6th SEC team in the NCAAT.


The committee doesn't look at how many teams are or aren't getting in from particular conference. Nor do they simply compare conf. opponents to one another. Just because A&M gets in doesn't mean LSU can't and vice-versa.

I agree with you about A&M. LSU really isn't a helpful matchup for them. Beating LSU for a 3rd time doesn't add anything to the resume. Likewise, for LSU, losing to A&M shouldn't hurt their resume. It's easy for the committee to justify the 3 losses to A&M as just a bad matchup for LSU

A&M desperately needs a win over a "good" team other than LSU. IMO, a potential LSU/A&M round 3 creates much more of an opportunity for LSU than it does for A&M
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:44 am to
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I think it is tough to say lock because of some of the mid major upsets pulling away dance tickets. Kind of worries me.



Why is is so tough to grasp that we are not even on the bubble?
Posted by Mshargois3
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
1664 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:02 pm to
I wanted UK in the championship. Oh well
Posted by fabybaby
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
4 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:18 pm to
I'm kind of worried too with the mid major upsets out there. I think if LSU were to lose to A&M, and A&M were to get to the final vs. a non Kentucky team(probably Vandy), and the non Kentucky team were to win the SECT, then I think we would be relegated to the NIT.

I think the selection committee feels that LSU has the easiest path to lock in a bid with just one win over an A&M they narrowly lost to twice. I think a lot of people are assuming that Kentucky wins the tournament. Kentucky has gone into the SECT twice undefeated and lost. I can see Vanderbilt beating them in Nashville, essentially a home game for them.

A Vanderbilt SECT championship over A&M would probably have LSU as the number seven team in their ranking of SEC teams with the selection committee. Let's face it, when you beat a good team three times, 99% of people will think that they are going to be the more deserving team. I don't think the committee is going to give the SEC 7 bids at the expense of a good mid major.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:28 pm to
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A Vanderbilt SECT championship over A&M would probably have LSU as the number seven team in their ranking of SEC teams with the selection committee. Let's face it, when you beat a good team three times, 99% of people will think that they are going to be the more deserving team. I don't think the committee is going to give the SEC 7 bids at the expense of a good mid major.



This would be a much bigger problem for Ole Miss than LSU.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
7777 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 12:29 pm to
This all depends on whether the committee thinks having a double bye is equal to a tourney win. If our goal is to get a bye then we shouldn't be penalized for getting one.
If you hypothetically figure two schools need a tourney win to get into NCAAT. one team has a bye and plays a team that just won the day before, while the other gets to play an easier game against a double digit seed the day before; it's not exactly fair to the team with the bye. Which is why, if I were on the committee, I'd equate a tournament bye to a tournament win. And then LSU is definitely a lock
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28386 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Why is is so tough to grasp that we are not even on the bubble?


If selection Sunday were today? Maybe. Unfortunately, LSU's "security" is only as strong as the circumstances around them. For instance, Murray St. lost in their conf tournament last night. Thus, they don't get the auto-bid. They are still good enough however to at least be considered for an unanticipated at-large spot.

Illinois St. could win the OVC auto bid today. If they do, that means 3 teams get in from the OVC when only 2 were expected. That would take away one of the available "bubble" spots.

Tulsa is on the outside looking in today. BUT they can win the AAC if they beat SMU this afternoon. Bubble or not, I have a tough time thinking the committee leaves out a major-conf regular season champ. Could be another bubble spot locked up.

LSU is in very good shape at the moment, but still not a "lock"
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23080 posts
Posted on 3/8/15 at 1:17 pm to
All those bracket busting teams you mentioned are going to take spots away from Texas and Texas A&M. Not LSU. We are in. It's a lock.
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