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re: Naz Reid should have stayed one more year
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:39 am to geauxtigers33
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:39 am to geauxtigers33
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Personally I think basketball should set up a true minor league system like MLB and the college baseball rule should be taken. You can go pro after high school but if you go to college you have to stay at least 3 years or until you’re 21.
or, just let kids come out whenever they want to after they've graduated HS/ turned 18 like it used to be. the HS kids panned out for the most part, and I think teams are more adept at developing young talent through things like D-League stints than they were back then.
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Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:41 am to Alt26
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That's fine, but be willing to accept college basketball becoming nearly as irrelevant as college baseball.
I’m actually ok with this personally. I don’t think the NCAA/universities would be because it may mean less money but the tournament will always be huge. That’s not about the players that’s about the gambling.
It doesn’t bother me that college baseball is a fringe sport that is only big in the southeast. I like to watch LSU play baseball, or any sport, and don’t care if no one else in the country is watching.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:46 am to genuineLSUtiger
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He was making bank with Willie Wiretap at the helm
Come on, Dick....
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:48 am to Jack Crevalle
As an LSU fan, I loved Naz.
But I'm also a Pelicans fan, and can take my purple and gold sunglasses off and objectively say I have no interest in drafting Naz tomorrow night. Even if it's in the 2nd.
So yeah...that's kind of the issue he's facing.
But I'm also a Pelicans fan, and can take my purple and gold sunglasses off and objectively say I have no interest in drafting Naz tomorrow night. Even if it's in the 2nd.
So yeah...that's kind of the issue he's facing.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:55 am to Jack Crevalle
The simple answer here is - he wasn't always the best player on the floor. Not for our team....or our opponents.
A Top 10 NBA pick would have been, maybe 90% of the time.
I think another year would have put him in that Top 10, possibly.
A Top 10 NBA pick would have been, maybe 90% of the time.
I think another year would have put him in that Top 10, possibly.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 8:56 am to geauxtigers33
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I don’t think the NCAA/universities would be because it may mean less money but the tournament will always be huge. That’s not about the players that’s about the gambling.
The NCAA tournament is THE NCAA's primary money maker, as in it accounts for about 80% or so of it's yearly revenue. While it's too well established to fall into complete irrelevancy like the CWS, taking out not just the best of the best young players, but the second and third tiers of those guys would absolutely hurt it's marketability which, in turn, would hurt it's market value in terms of TV contracts.
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It doesn’t bother me that college baseball is a fringe sport that is only big in the southeast. I like to watch LSU play baseball, or any sport, and don’t care if no one else in the country is watching.
That's fine, but baseball is not a sport that is relied upon to pay the athletic department's bills. As just about every major university basketball is the #2 revenue generator. For many mid-major schools (think Villanova, Gonzaga, Marquette, etc) it's #1. If you crash basketball, then something like baseball may even become MORE of a fringe sport simply because there will be less revenue to support it.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:01 am to Tiger1988
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Might as well get paid and not allegedly paid.
Short term he will get more than he allegedly areceived at LSU. But long term, the dude would have been a 1st rounder next year meaning he lost around $6M going early
The kid is simply not ready for the NBA.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:02 am to Jack Crevalle
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He could have improved multiple facets of his game under Wade next year,
You don't think having access to elite coaching, training, etc is better for his game than staying at LSU one more year? Especially given that he doesn't have to waist time going to class or playing school? All he has to do it play basketball for legit money now. It's completely on him to get better. Being in the NBA or G-League is considerably better than staying at LSU. It's not even a comparison.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:03 am to wheelz007
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The simple answer here is - he wasn't always the best player on the floor. Not for our team....or our opponents.
A Top 10 NBA pick would have been, maybe 90% of the time.
I think another year would have put him in that Top 10, possibly.
Agreed. When he was matched up against guys his size or double teamed, he wilted. He was bounced off his marks a lot. Fell to the ground A LOT. Lost his dribble too damn much. When he struggled, he really had a hard time turning it around.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:10 am to geauxtigers33
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He can get the same development from coaches geared towards getting players in the NBA over anything in the G league against better competition and get paid
True.
But if he had improved his stock and been drafted in the first round next year, he’d get paid more. I think that was a possibility for Naz. Do you think he was incapable of being drafted in the first had he stayed?
“Getting paid” shouldn’t be the goal. “Maximizing what you are paid” should be the goal.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:16 am to LSUTigers778
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This shouldn’t be hard to understand there was ZERO (0) chance of Naz staying for year 2 it wasn’t even a possibility not like it was a 50/50 choice and he choose to go pro it was 100/0
This doesn't address the OP at all.
The OP says he should have stayed. He's saying it was in his best interest.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:46 am to SammyTiger
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There is a lot of things he could easily improve in college.
Is there some law that won't allow him to improve on them in the pros ?
You know there are also numerous examples of players being drafted in the 2nd round and then being extremely successful. Just off the top of my head, Deandre Jordan left after his freshman year, drafted in the 2nd round and now has pocketed over $100,000,000 . But maybe he should have listened to the internet and went back to college to risk injury and get about a 1/4 of the instruction available to pros.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:03 am to yaherrdme
Should have stayed and worked on his game...but I think he was one and done before he even hit campus
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:21 am to Disgeaux Bob
quote:he has little lower body strength too, it seems. Either that or he has horrible balance, because he looked out of control driving to the hoop and fell down more than any player in recent memory. Has no low post game and isn't a slasher.
He has zero upper body strength and at times still thinks he’s a point guard.
The only really good quality is he's tall and has a great set shot from deep. Now that's a very valuable skill, but that's about it.
I love the guy and his effort, but I was a bit underwhelmed this year. He needs more work, but if he wants to get paid while he works, good for him.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:46 am to Jack Crevalle
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Some NBA mock drafts have Naz slipping to mid to late 2nd round
I'm surprised he is even on the board as being drafted. He doesn't have Giannis like athleticism and can't shoot deep consistently. I don't see how he fits in today's NBA aside from the fact that he is tall. Coming out of high school, to be ranked that high nationally and not be pursued by some of the major programs says it all.
ETA: Called it! Nothing but net.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:36 am
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:18 am to genuineLSUtiger
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genuineLSUtiger
Its hilarious to see the crowd who hates the fact that Big Willy is THE most popular coach on campus.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:47 pm to atltiger6487
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he has little lower body strength too, it seems. Either that or he has horrible balance, because he looked out of control driving to the hoop and fell down more than any player in recent memory. Has no low post game and isn't a slasher. The only really good quality is he's tall and has a great set shot from deep. Now that's a very valuable skill, but that's about it. I love the guy and his effort, but I was a bit underwhelmed this year. He needs more work, but if he wants to get paid while he works, good for him
Supposedly he grew 8-9 inches in his last 3 years of high school. It probably takes awhile to recalibrate your coordination.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:56 pm to Disgeaux Bob
quote:come on, now. Most people grow a lot in high school. I grew 10 inches in 2 years (yes, that's literally true) and it didn't affect my coordination one bit.
Supposedly he grew 8-9 inches in his last 3 years of high school. It probably takes awhile to recalibrate your coordination.
I doubt the NBA wants to take risk on a guy waiting for his coordination to recalibrate, whatever that means.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 4:58 pm to atltiger6487
The growth spurt is better used to explain his tendency to play on the perimeter and lack of post dominance. He said he wanted to model his game after KD coming out of HS, which makes sense as a former guard who has a good stroke and just shot up 8 inches. But he’s filled out and doesn’t have near the quickness and handle to play that way, so he’s going to need to work on his post game and play as a stretch 4/5. He’s shown plenty of shooting potential, but his post offense and defense is what he needs to establish to stick around the league.
Posted on 6/19/19 at 5:03 pm to TheMuffinMan
Naz did 3 bench reps at the combine...oh my
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