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Myth/truth LSU football related, Peach Bowl in 1980, Indian Mounds death 84

Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:40 pm
When I was in HS/college two things happened related to LSU football, both of which I can’t find anything about when I search. Can anyone add details to:

• I recall the Peach Bowl invited the 1980 team (Stovall’s first) to play with a 7-4 record and we turned it down? Did this really happen and if so why did we not want to go to a bowl?

• In 1984 Miss St was our nemesis. They upset us in 1982 and regularly beat us in 1980’s (John Bond!). But in 1984 the Thursday before the game one of our football players (who?)and his GF were making out on Indian Mounds and a SUV (Jeep?) ran over them and killed the GF. Football team was down and may have cost us the game. MUCH more importantly a woman was killed and I don’t think it was ever solved.

Appreciate anyone’s recollections in this. I’m getting old and feeble and realize I may have some of this wrong, but think it is overall accurate.
Posted by Southcoast
Texas
Member since Jan 2004
687 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:46 pm to
In 1984, a coed was killed on top of one mound when she was run over by a pickup truck. Her death prompted the brickwork that now blocks vehicle access to the mounds.

In 1969, LSU ended up 9-1. We lost to Ole Miss and it cost LSu an opportunity to play Texas for the National Championship in the Cotton Bowl. LSU turned down its (Peach?) bowl invitation.

LINK

McCLendon's last season was in 1979 and LSU played in the Tangerine Bowl. Bo Rein took over but never coached a game. Stovall then took over for Rein and it took 3 seasons for LSU to finally make it back to post season play.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 4:03 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:46 pm to
I dug this up:

A 1984 Baton Rouge State Times article said the mounds were the site of a student fatality that year.

Reckless students often drove their vehicles over the mounds, seriously injuring one student in 1980 and killing student Elizabeth Smoak in November 1984, the article stated.


A plaque now stands on one of the mounds with Smoak's name engraved in it.

The administration quickly constructed pole barriers around the mounds and later assigned students in the Landscaping Department to landscape the area to prevent further damage to the mounds and possible injuries, the Baton Rouge State Times article stated.

LINK

ETA:
quote:

It was Courtnay Elizabeth Smoak.......she was with Jimmy Goodrum.

O-T Lounge


1984 siging class:

1984
HEAD COACH BILL ARNSPARGER
C Nacho Albergamo, Marrero, La.
DL Eric Andolsek, Thibodaux, La.
DB Willie Bryant, Ft.Walton, Fla.
OL Todd Coutee, Eunice, La.
WR Wendell Davis, Shreveport, La.
F Matt DeFrank, Ft.Walton, Fla.
OL Gerry Edgens, Baker, La.
OL Chris Feught, Lafayette, La.
WR Danny Fletcher, Ferriday, La.
OL Jimmy Goodrum, Central Lafourche, La.
QB Mickey Guidry, Marrero, La.
DL Mark Hall, Patterson, La.
LB Nicky Hazard, New Orleans, La.
LB Mike Hebert, New Orleans, La.
WR Glenn Holt, Miami, Fla.
RB Robert Knight, Baton Rouge, La.
RB Jamie Lawson, Central Lafourche, La.
K Ronnie Lewis, New Orleans, La.
DB Charles Mackey, Miami, Fla.
RB Sam Martin, New Orleans, La.
WR Mike Mayes, DeRidder, La.
OL Ralph Norwood, New Orleans, La.
LB Darrel Phillips, Franklin, La.
LB Mike Smith, Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.

LSU Sports.net
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:48 pm to
There used to be plaque next the mounds. Not sure if it's still there.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

I recall the Peach Bowl invited the 1980 team (Stovall’s first) to play with a 7-4 record and we turned it down?


Don't think this is right. Not that Miami vs VPI in '80 was "must see TV." I don't think we received a bid. What surprised me was we played 7-3 Tulane who had gotten and accepted a Hall of Fame Bowl in Birmingham bid. Since going into the game LSU was 6-4 it seemed like a "winner" would get the bid but supposedly LSU had led the HOF bowl in '79 it would go,but chose the Tangerine instead.
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2079 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:59 pm to
I was in Hodges Hall that night and heard the scream. I think it was a Spitfire not a Jeep. The guy lawyered up and turned himself in a couple of days later
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:00 pm to
The 80 team had hoped for an invite to any bowl and none came. The '69 Tigers, finished #7 nationally and did in fact turn down a Peach Bowl invite, the seniors choosing to stay at home after being snubbed by the Cotton in favor of Notre Dame. They'd played in the inaugural Peach the year before, clubbing Florida State. There was a coed killed on the Mound around '84.
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
2901 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:01 pm to
I was in Hodges Hall that night and heard the scream. I think it was a Spitfire not a Jeep. The guy lawyered up and turned himself in a couple of days later

was pretty sure guy was never caught or charged? But hearing a scream must have been terrible...
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

LSU turned down its Sun and Astro-Bluebonnet bowl invitation(s).


Which was a shame because while those were certainly below "Big Four" status, LSU would have played Nebraska in the Sun or Houston in the Bluebonnet, both went on to destroy fellow SEC teams and finished strong in '69.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:10 pm to
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after being snubbed by the Cotton in favor of Notre Dame

That 1969 Cotton Bowl was Notre Dame's first bowl game since 1924.

Texas, as the SWC champs, had an automatic bid. The Cotton Bowl committee was eyeing LSU, but the University of Texas wanted nothing to do with the Tigers. Texas held a slim one-game lead in the series between the two teams, and felt like giving up the lead could affect Texas recruiting. They also weren't too confident since their last meeting with the Tigers when Charles McClendon brought his first LSU squad to the 1963 Cotton Bowl and shut out the undefeated, SWC Champion Longhorns.

So Texas lobbied heavily (READ: $$$)to get Notre Dame to forego their self-imposed bowl ban, and play for a possible national championship. Texas + Notre Dame + $$$ = Tigers not getting the invite. McClendon let the players decide if they would accept the lesser bowl invite, and they voted to decline.

frick Texas.

frick Notre Dame.

frick the Cotton Bowl.

frick the old way of choosing who would play for the NC in the bowl games.
Posted by C-Bear
A Texas Tiger
Member since May 2005
809 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:10 pm to
I knew someone that was a passenger in the Jeep. Naturally, she was pretty upset about being a party to something like that. She never wanted to talk about, so we just let it be.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:15 pm to
Texas and Royal had tried to talk Penn State and Paterno into that 1970 Cotton Bowl. LSU supposedly was invited to the Sugar before Ole Miss was but held out for the Cotton.The way polls were then the Ole Miss lost killed any shot of an NC even if LSU had beaten Texas in the Cotton.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Texas and Royal had tried to talk Penn State and Paterno into that 1970 Cotton Bowl. LSU supposedly was invited to the Sugar before Ole Miss was but held out for the Cotton.The way polls were then the Ole Miss lost killed any shot of an NC even if LSU had beaten Texas in the Cotton.

It seems like bowl invites were pretty much all but announced before the Tulane game every year, and money had a lot more to do with it than polls. There was a lot of wheeling and dealing before the season even ended, and sometimes teams would lose their last game, but get the invite anyway.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:28 pm to
my dad was a 'civic leader' of the bowl we had here from '82 to '90 or so. While they got left overs they were privy to all of the blood and guts and wheeling and dealing. Some pretty good stuff.

As for losing their last game, the very next year (1970) Colorado absolutely destroyed Air Force, 49-19 the week after the Sugar chose AFA.

And of course, we all know what the Orange Bowl committee endured at the 1982 regular season end.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:37 pm to
Yeah, I sure was glad when the Bowl Alliance came along and at least made the selection process a little more transparent.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
7242 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:41 pm to
Coming from a younger tiger fan (26) this is all pretty damn interesting
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38686 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Landscaping Department to landscape the area


Landscape Architecture Department to design a landscape barrier.
Posted by RPC4LSU
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Jan 2006
1952 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 6:05 pm to
Courtney's brother, Sonny, played football for LSU a few years later.
Posted by tigahslawyer
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2005
904 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:14 pm to
i was in tiger bank in 1968 when we played in first peach bowl.....first time i ever flew in an airplane
anyone remember "southern airways"?
flew there and back in the same day
very very cold and driving rain the entire game
lsu 31 fla st. 27
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8864 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

was pretty sure guy was never caught or charged?

He definitely turned himself in. Don't remember the results though.
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