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re: my opinion from the sideline of the game

Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:49 pm to
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this team is the least focused, most ME oriented team I have ever witnessed.


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Look at the difference in JJ and JLee, that is all I would need to see to put JL on the bench for good.

JL supporting JJ after he was hurt on the sidelines? wtf are you talking about?

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Miles, by his ignoring it, is to blame.

miles in many ways created it and has added fuel to the fire
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:50 pm to
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it's called lack of freakin SENIOR leadership - these guys are all out for themselves.....no Doucet, Flynn, Hester or Dorsey

dickson, herm, etc are still here
Posted by cecelia
Member since Jun 2007
157 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:54 pm to
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This team didn't have an identity...no leadership. Who are the team leaders? Can anyone answer that?


Exactly. The problem there is no discipline on the team. When SATAN was here players were instilled with discipline and it showed on the field. If u really don't care off the field how will it work on the field???? The reason it is showing up now is because when Miles came in "Satans" players were still here and had been disciplined from the beginning and teaching the younger players. As Miles players began coming on the team and satans players moved on, everyone could notice the difference each year. I feel it will only get worse.
DISCIPLINE EQUALS TEAM WORK!!!!!
JUST ASK FULMER ABOUT THE LACK OF DISCIPLINE
just my .2
Posted by Future Tiger 13
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
99 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:56 pm to
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3. No one respects Lee
In the first quarter or so before he got hurt none of the wide receviers or offensive linemen would talk to him. When Jefferson came in everyone rallied around him, communicated with him. At no time did Lee or Jefferson talk about what each other saw


Maybe because he is not good?
The players acually know they have some chance at winning with the better,more entergetic QB controlling the game.Have you not noticed you douche?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 12:58 pm to
I agree with your post.

this is not a smart football team.
Posted by Hoodatt
Member since Feb 2005
2623 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 1:03 pm to
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That's the way the defensive backs are playing. They know the system won't work.


How do we know that guys are keeping their assignments. We heard in the Auburn game from the players that they were blaming each other for dropping assignments and making mistakes.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 1:08 pm to
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They should take more pride in what they do and not worry about the fans. Please give the "bad fan" crap a rest.



This is Miles fourth season. He has filled the roster with talented players. Which players, in your opinion, has shown that they know their assignments and the technique to play their position. On offense the OL, Dickson, LaFell, Quinn Johnson, and Scott have been reliable. On defense, Alem is about the only player that is close.
Posted by ellis1975
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 1:11 pm to
First off, I agree. Miles may intended to protect JL by showing unwavering support but at the same time he should have never said anything bad about any other player. He protected Le with excuse after excuse and his unwavering support.

They are all kids and they feel that they all deserve the same treatment. Miles called out the veterans after the UF game and has called out the defense. I think some players who have been called out have not liked the fact that Lee has performed worse than anyone on the team, yet the coaching staff has consoled and protected him. This has created some division of the team.

If you think its crazy, just look at the fan base. They too are divided when it comes to this kid. As a player, you have to wonder how bad can 1 player be allowed to perform before you go in a different direction. The defense doesn't appear to believe in the Co-DC's and the rest of the team has no confidence in JL as the QB. What kind of performance could anyone expect from this team in that situation?

Go read some of the quotes from the players.“When Jordan came in, it was like a spark on the team,” tight end Richard Dickson said. “He came in there and he got us started and things started working. He made great throws and made great reads. He did well for us tonight.”
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 1:21 pm to
Some quality observations at this site are being stated today!


This is what I said early last night after the game on the SEC Rant, because the rant was still closed!!!

{LSU messed up giving L.M. (Posted on 11/22 at 9:02 p.m.) a long term contract! This man and his staff have gotten progressively worse, then winning the N.C. last year looks like it is coming back to bite LSU in the rear. I believe our players even gave up on them!}
I got an immediate retort from another LSU fan "TigerBait2010," plainly said....."Oh Shut Up." Some smart, know it all poster with over 6,000 past on this site??? We're at Sea with no food or fresh water, and people like that are blinded by 'what?'
Posted by sonotabamafan
Member since Oct 2008
86 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 1:25 pm to
I have stayed away from TD for a while, but thought I would put my 2 cents in.

1) This team lacks passion for winning from the majority of the players, esp Byrd IMO. Even if he would not piss on JL if he were on fire off the field, on the field he should do whatever it takes to get the job done...he doesn't. He needs a foot put up his arse. The players that I witness as having passion for the game and LSU are Lee, Holdiay, Mitchell, Dickson, Jefferson, Alehm (and am sure I left a few out, so feel free to add if you think I did). And as far as none of the players talking to Lee on the sidelines, that is sad, and the only person who can fix it is Miles. Maybe he needs to bench the ones who seem to feel they are superior to him, and play some of those kids on the bench who actually want to play football as a team.

2)This whole Co D's shite is way out of control. Honestly, I can't figure out if it is the players, or coaches, or even a combination of both...Too far gone to make that determination.

3) Everyone wants Lee benched, maybe he should be, but so should alot of others as well...Hell, I can't imaging that any of the second or third string could do any worse...why not play them instead, at least they would have passion and not look like they really don't give a shitz one way or the other.

Love my Tigers, and am not a Negatiger, although I am at this point, very

about what is happening with this program.

Posted by aparke7
Selfmadesville
Member since Nov 2007
297 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 3:30 pm to
I aggree whole heartedly with you. IMO it would start with the whole defenseive line, esp Pittman. Every coach in America will run to his side and force him to make a play, which he doesnt. He gets tossed around like a rag doll on every other play. I would replace Byrd, and I would replace some of the secondary. Put the guys who have shown a passion for the game.
Coaching isnt always about schems, its about having 11 guys willing to go through a wall, play after play. No one has done that consistantly on this defense. The best player on the defense is a Freshman, Peterson. Can you belive that a true Freshman is the best player on the defense loaded "Big Game Players".

Posted by tiger64
Rowlett (Dallas area)
Member since Oct 2004
450 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:15 pm to
This team didn't have an identity...no leadership. Who are the team leaders? Can anyone answer that?
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Chicken - same thing can be said of the coaches !!
Posted by TIEF
Member since Jul 2007
1113 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:29 pm to
Maybe this does not help...Maybe the Secondary is just "hungover" that was the problem with the Troy game....

Look at row 23 of pictures...and the date of the "Juvenile" concert...Thats our starting Safety with a drink in his hand...right?....

First Pic row 23
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:29 pm to
Maybe we should have open tryouts for every starting position for this Arkansas game, if not, whichever bowl game we may go to.
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
58630 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:31 pm to
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Who are the team leaders? Can anyone answer that?


the only one who showed signs of being one has been charles scott.
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
58630 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:32 pm to
also i have seen lafell on more than one occasion approach lee and talk him up after a bad through or series.
Posted by tiger64
Rowlett (Dallas area)
Member since Oct 2004
450 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:56 pm to
similar ...

LINK

but I can't be sure. Are you?
Posted by Carlos
Member since Nov 2006
2130 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 4:58 pm to
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We were right behind the bench at the Florida game and unbelievably saw one of the players, cant remember his name right now, pull his cell phone out of the front of his pants during the first quarter and shoot off a text. Everyone in our section saw this and couldnt believe it.


If this is true then the team is totally out of control. The coaching staff has totally lost them.
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 5:00 pm to
I saw Lee and Jefferson talk, so why should I trust the rest of what you said?
Posted by TIEF
Member since Jul 2007
1113 posts
Posted on 11/24/08 at 5:41 pm to
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similar ...


Yea, similar in being the same dude...
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