re: My Final Take on the Outback Bowl

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Teams like Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, USC never lose on sunny days.


You are in TOTAL denial and will not look at how good the other team is you are playing... I gave ya a chance by being civil.. But you are a clueless excuse making dumbass... I just hope YOU come back on Jan 2nd to take your beating after running your mouth.. I doubt you will....

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Dude, you've got to be mistaking me for NChawk or the other one. Nothing I'm saying is disrespecting LSU, in fact if you'd look into my comments a little you'd probably see that I consider LSU a great one and mostly better than 13 of your conference mates. I have mainly been talking about generalities.

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PJ is our local retard, kinda like Cuba gooding in radio

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Yeah, but he has a really hot guy in his avatar.

O-line - Brandon Scherff wouldve been a top 20 pick this year (announced hes returning for senior yr next year). Van Sloten will be drafted. All the other guys will most likely be drafted or on nfl roster at some point. KF is an o-line mastermind.

D-line - Probably a push, LSU slight advantage, several of our 4 star recruits are just getting their feet wet. I would guess LSU more athletic but Iowa more disciplined.

Linebackers - No argument.

Tight Ends - Fiedorwicz is a 3rd to 4th rounder. Not sure what LSU has.

ST - Mike Meyer holds school record for consecutive PATs (well over 100) and was a Lou Groza finalist. KMM is in top 3 in country in punt return average.

i still haven't seen an adequate explanation of how iowa is going to cover beckham and landry?

much less running tsunami....

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My guess is nickel coverage with increased blitz packages to try and force the young QB into mistakes

By which lsu counters with hot routes and draws

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that's the best explanation i've seen...and i certainly haven't seen anyone with hawk in their screen name bringing this up either here or in that pathetic hawkeyenation board...

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O-line

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Push

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D-line

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LSU and it's probably not close

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Linebackers

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Iowa

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Tight Ends

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LSU edge

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ST

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LSU and it's not close

Can the OP please change the thread title to My never ending take on the Outback Bowl.

This thread wont fricking die.

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So do you think LSU plays this game in a vacuum or what? Every time LSU loses it's only because they didn't play well and not because the opponent outplayed them? Please.

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Well, here's the flaw in that argument. I haven't seen a single Iowa poster on this thread that has stated that Iowa is the more talented or athletic team. And looking purely at records, if either coaching staff has an advantage, it would be LSU's. But let's put that part aside for the moment.

Operating off the assumption that LSU has the more talented roster, it would stand to reason that if both teams played to their capabilities, that LSU would come out on top. However, we all know that is rarely case. Things like injuries, turnovers, and momentum play a huge role in any college football game. We know that there is already one injury that seems like it will play to Iowa's favor, but we can't be absolutely certain. The rest would be just guessing at this point.

With all that said, you need to look at this and understand why LSU fans might see this game in a "vacuum" setting. If the Tigers play to their potential, they should win. Why? It is the less likely for an upset to occur just because the team with less talent "upped its game." Let's be honest. It usually takes a little bit of luck or some turnovers. A momentum swing. It is far more common for upsets to occur because the more talented team makes mistakes, along with the other teams's normal to above average play.

Let's look at LSU's performance this year for examples. If you break it down, the season played to form except for 2 games. LSU was the more talented team in 10 out of its 12 games. They went 9-1 in those games. LSU played a superior Bama team on the road and lost. They were evenly matched with Georgia (at the time, before UGA got killed by injuries) on the road. LSU lost a 1 possession thriller. I think LSU still has more talent than Auburn overall, but not by much. Much like UGA did with us, we caught them at the right time. Things have a way of evening themselves out, don't they?

The Ole Miss and Arkansas games are the outliers. LSU was far more talented than either team, especially Arkansas. And that game was also at home. However, not only did the lesser teams step up their games, but LSU made a LOT of mistakes in both games. Especially the Ole Miss game.

However, even with a 1st half shutout, Mett having by far his worst outing of the year, being on the road, and Ole Miss absolutely playing off its arse, the Rebels still had to kick a last second FG for the win. Beating a better team takes more than just solid effort and smart play.

So, when LSU plays to form against a team with less talent, they have a pretty damn good winning percentage. Even against Texas A&M, a well-coached team that looked like a nightmare matchup for the Tigers (despite having less overall talent), the game went according to form. In fact, off a bye week with the defense finally turned loose a bit, LSU dominated.

So there it is. Every LSU fan knows that Iowa CAN win. We haven't forgotten the Ole Miss and Arky games. It isn't even about effort. LSU played hard against Clemson in the Chicken Bowl last year, but still made mistakes that ultimately cost them the game. Will the Tigers make mistakes in bunches? If not, a win is VERY likely.

The rest is about unknowns. How will Jennings do in his first start? We have absolutely no idea. If he makes a lot of mistakes, Iowa has a good shot. If he is the 2nd coming of Matt Flynn, LSU rolls. Somewhere in the middle is more likely, but that's obviously just a guess. Either way, he will likely dictate the turnover and penalty situations, especially the pre-snap variety.

Then there's the defense game planning. I personally think this is the biggest key to the Outback Bowl. If Chavis plays the upperclassmen and goes with that soft, passive zone that we saw so much of this year, Iowa will be able to hold the ball in the run game and move inside the 20s. If he plays the younger guys and gets more aggressive, like against A&M, I think the D puts on a much better showing than most expect. Unfortunately, he went back to the zone and put the young guys back on the shelf for the Arky game. But with the extra time for bowl prep, who knows which way he goes?

This aspect has me more worried than anything else in the game. Even more than a freshman QB in his first start. The LSU D is far too passive in zone. They react. They don't dictate. They don't create big plays. If we play they play this way against Iowa, the game will likely be very close, regardless of other factors. That gameplan plays to their one offensive strength.

So, there's a bit of reason to break up the name calling that has you all in a tizzy. I think the game will go largely by the numbers. I call it LSU 31- Iowa 20. But that's just me.

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This is why we keep beating "more talented" (athletically) SEC teams in bowl games.

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The SEC does have a couple of quality coaches, last time I checked. TCU's coach isn't too shabby either, even though they had a down year. Again, LSU went 9-1 against the teams they held a talent edge on. Coaching gets you to a certain point. But against equal or better execution.....

Hey genius , fundamentals , execution , motivation , and effort ALL have something to do with talent . It's called football I.Q. Lol so you are saying LSU can run fast and are strong but are dumb and don't try as hard as Iowa?