re: My beef with Crowton.........

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Its the plays that we run out of those formations.

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last year when we ran i-form we ran the ball i think like 70% of the time. i think it's higher this year

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The passing routes are typical Crowton slants and crosses over the middle.

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early on he hit these regularly

then Ds took them away and we started having lee throw at the sidelines

then we just packed it in and got conservative

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Right but why is that Miles' offense?

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because crowton never ran it before OC'ing under miles

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Are you saying the option is Miles offense?

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naw crowton incorporated option in his spread when he was at oregon

but we don't run much outside other than the occasional speed option. we rarely run the zone read (even when it was working, like last week).

and even without the option. keiland has been an afterthought. why? b/c our offense seems committed to solely running up the gut. now scott is a beast, but not when the D knows what we're doing.

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But why do you seem to think Lee is so much better running a true 4-5 receiver spread?

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when we ran no-huddle 4/5 wide sets, lee did well

hell that's how we came back against AU and Troy

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He'd also seem a better fit for a true shotgun O, which Crowton almost never runs, using the pistol instead.

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we run the shotgun plenty

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early on he hit these regularly

then Ds took them away and we started having lee throw at the sidelines

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Exactly. That's why I don't understand why he still hasn't adjusted our basic attack. You said he started having Lee throw at the sidelines, when? The sideline throws are still used FAR less than the middle routes. And even the slight adjustment to more sideline routes came weeks too late.

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and even without the option. keiland has been an afterthought. why? b/c our offense seems committed to solely running up the gut.

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Agreed. But that wasn't the case last year, even with Hester who was also primarily an inside threat. My point is that I gave Crowton the credit last year for coming up with our scheme, as I think most other people did. So why now that things aren't going well, does everyone assume its Miles' fault? I think the playcalling is being handled the same way as last year, GC just can't seem to figure it out this year and come up with the right calls in the right situations. I don't think Les all of a sudden started taking playcalling authority from GC after last year's success.

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when we ran no-huddle 4/5 wide sets, lee did well

hell that's how we came back against AU and Troy

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Yeah but that wasn't just changing the formation, it was changing the ROUTES too. Hell against Troy all we ran were screens to LaFell and deep balls to Tolliver and LaFell in the 2nd half. That's all I'm saying. Why hasn't Crowton made that his bread and butter rather than the same crosses and slants that Lee obviously can't throw.

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we run the shotgun plenty

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I still think we use the pistol considerably more than true shotgun, but I don't have any stats on that. Pretty sure though.


Thanks for responding. Hopefully things start to get sorted out against Ark and in the bowl.

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My point is that I gave Crowton the credit last year for coming up with our scheme, as I think most other people did. So why now that things aren't going well, does everyone assume its Miles' fault?

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we run a lot more from the i this year

we almost run exclusively up the middle this year

that's miles' offense, not crowton

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Why hasn't Crowton made that his bread and butter rather than the same crosses and slants that Lee obviously can't throw.

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i don't think he's been able to get into a rhythm calling his plays b/c he has to keep running i-form up the gut

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I think we use the pistol considerably more than true shotgun.

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we really don't

I think I heard similar complaints about Jimbo and Miles imposing his offense and changing O Line schemes and game plans on JImbo at the last minute.

In the big picture yesterday was the first in Crowton's time here where our Offense was really stopped so I'm having a hard time getting on Crowton's case too much. He's a great OC.

I think a lot of the problem revolves around Crowton's refusal to protect Lee. He's just thrown him out there and asked him to make all the throws, all the reads etc. There hasn't been a game I've watched where it seems Lee is protected from himself.

What I mean is the lack of moving the pocket. Lack of play action in crucial situations. Lack of shorter routes/easier completions.

Rolling the pocket would be such an easier way of getting Lee 1-3 easy completions to get his feet wet before just asking him to bomb it 30 yards down field or on a deep crossing pattern.

Instead we're asking him to throw deep outs and crossing patterns (which are often baited routes) and in turn he throws dozens of incompletions to start and picks to finish...

slow, for once i agree with everything you said. LINK