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re: Moscona ripping Ed O And Joe Alleva

Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:58 pm to
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A simple wiki search will show you that he has only stayed more than 2 years, 2x in his entire career. 


he was at one place from 1998-2003
then at one place from 2004- 2010
he was at Nc STATE For 3 years
he was at wisky for 1 year
was at pitt for 1 year and a big boy came calling

so youre wrong dumbass. the majority of his stops were 3 years or more.

educate yourself instead of regurgitating bull shite rant myths
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12849 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:58 pm to
Yes good managers sometimes make mistakes hiring the wrong folks.
It’s not clear at all to me that Canada was the wrong guy, but assuming he was, Orgeron handled his separation/ termination in a terrible fashion.
This will cost LSU money, credibility and (likely) recruits.
And if you are a top notch OC, why would you want to voluntarily accept a job with these clowns?
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
5893 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:59 pm to
Most of the special ed graduates on this board think Moscona is an idiot, but now he’s correct? Lol
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:59 pm to
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Apparently you have never had any type of managerial experience and had real responsibility in any leadership capacity. 1) Good Managers sometimes make hiring mistakes 2) Effective managers correct their hiring mistakes


While this is true for the real world it is dumb When applied to college football. This isn’t where you bring a guy in and “try” him out. Head coaches could interview a guy everyday, all day, for a week if they wanted to. They spend hours interviewing and discussing things with potential hires.

And even if they thought they agreed on a philosophy before cnanada was hired, did O not watch any film of Canada’s offense.

To say in the 3-4 week you don’t like the motion is asinine. That’s what his offense does.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:59 pm to
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but yeah the program is right where people like you want it. posters on here that are fine with the way lsu looks now arent lsu fans.




I'd be stupid to fight with stupid........

Very few people on this board are being LSU fans right now, and you certainly aren't even close to being one of them.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:00 pm to


facts boy.


he left wisconsin because the head coach was fired.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Very few people on this board are being LSU fans right now, and you certainly aren't even close to being one of them.



you aren't a lsu fan if your ok with lsu's national perception right now.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:02 pm to
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educate yourself instead of regurgitating bull shite rant myths



Since 2010, he has coached in 6 different places. HOW THE frick can you average 3 year (or longer) stints with that Math?

Did you learn your math in the circus... freak?
Posted by Tiger-kev
Mobile, AL
Member since Feb 2005
529 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:04 pm to
Totally agree with CEO. This Mickey Mouse jet sweep crap had to go.

Was a bad hire to begin with...start over.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:05 pm to
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It’s insane they can’t even make this work

O had no business getting this gig, especially at his current price


What's even worse and possibly insult to injury is that Arkansas hired Chad Morris at basically the same price, same thing with Tennessee and Pruitt, distinguishing factor though is both those individuals are great coaches(Morris an offensive dynamo with his spread offense, Pruitt being a DC success at wherever he's at) and I don't think CEO has EVER been regarded as one of the elite at his position in terms of coaching, he's a great recruiter whoopdeefrickingdoo so is Frank Wilson, that translates to being a great HC at a Power 5 school? CMON Eaux Lovers, don't be schmucks.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Since 2010, he has coached in 6 different places. HOW THE frick can you average 3 year (or longer) stints with that Math? 

Did you learn your math in the circus... freak?



so youre just gonna erase the rest of his coaching career because it doesnt fit your stance?

he left Wisky because BB was fired. he went to NC state for 3 years.
then went to pitt. then a big boy called.

from 1998-2010 he was at 2 schools.

4 stops he was at school for 3 or more years.
3 times he left of his own accord

so again, the majority of his stops were 3 years or more. just facts and shite
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:12 pm to
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so youre just gonna erase the rest of his coaching career because it doesnt fit your stance?



Here i am arguing with stupid.... what does that make me..


I don't have a problem with Canada. I like him. i wish he'd stay. I am disappointed.

However, that doesn't excuse the landslide of out right lies and misinformation that is spewing on this board. There are so many erroneous posts being made and presented as fact, and circulating that mess ABSOLUTELY MEANS YOU ARE NOT AN LSU FAN.

It does nothing positive for our program so why are people choosing to hurt it, if they love it?

Sometimes, people just don't mesh. End of story.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:17 pm to
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Here i am arguing with stupid.... what does that make me


im posting facts. only a dumbass would call facts, stupid

he was at Butler for 1 year
then was at Northern Illinois from
1998-2003
then was at indian from 2004-2010
he went back to northern illinois
went to a big boy at WISKY and the HC left and the new coach cleaned house(surely youre not blaming MC for that)
he was then at nc state for 3
he went to pitt for 1 year and a big boy came calling.

im sorry facts prove you wrong. deal with it. the majority of his stop where he left on his owm accord were places he spent 3 years or more at. deal with it
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59509 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:21 pm to
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To say in the 3-4 week you don’t like the motion is asinine. That’s what his offense does.




I don't think that's what Orgeron said. Can you link?

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59223 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:22 pm to
Link to show’s recording?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

However, that doesn't excuse the landslide of out right lies and misinformation that is spewing on this board. There are so many erroneous posts being made and presented as fact, and circulating that mess ABSOLUTELY MEANS YOU ARE NOT AN LSU FAN. 

It does nothing positive for our program so why are people choosing to hurt it, if they love it? 




let me know how many 1st years head coaches fire/force out their handpicked OC in less than 12 months.


acting like this is just normal means your head is in the sand and you dont care how lsu looks.

how many wtf moments have to happen in 10 months for you to question the direction of the program?


even if your point about Canada being a rolling stone stands, it still looks bad for O. he was hand picked by O.


what lies are being spread?
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:24 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59509 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

im posting facts. only a dumbass would call facts, stupid

he was at Butler for 1 year
then was at Northern Illinois from
1998-2003
then was at indian from 2004-2010
he went back to northern illinois
went to a big boy at WISKY and the HC left and the new coach cleaned house(surely youre not blaming MC for that)
he was then at nc state for 3
he went to pitt for 1 year and a big boy came calling.

im sorry facts prove you wrong. deal with it. the majority of his stop where he left on his owm accord were places he spent 3 years or more at. deal with it



I think you are missing the point. Regardless of who was at fault (I assume they both were at fault) there was no working it out.

It's unfortunate. But, it's not the end of the world. Orgeron needs to make a good hire.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

I don't think that's what Orgeron said. Can you link? 


yeah i cant imagine him saying that since everyone knows Canada's Offense os built upon pre snap motion
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:25 pm
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:30 pm to
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I don't agree with this. We saw Canada's offense in every game except the first half against Troy.
If you think that was what Canada ran at Pitt then all I can do is laugh because it was not. Canada's offense is a lot more than jet sweeps with a lot more passing involving using TE's and RB's to pass to as well as the WR's, but the jet sweep is all you basically saw out of the motion. Lol Listen, Orgeron pretty much wanted to start running what him and Ensminger ran last season, if you were gon do that why hire the guy, he hired him because he felt pressure to hire an OC I think after he couldn't get his boy Kiffin, but what fricking ever.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:33 pm to
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just support the team and quit crying like a damn baby


So, to be clear, you would be happy if Curley Hallman was still the coach?

Because if your attitude is just shut up and support the team, the you really don’t care about winning or improving the program in any way.

You’d be perfectly happy with Curley still losing 8-10 games a year. As long as he’s the coach, shut up and back him.

What a pathetic loser’s attitude.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 5:44 pm
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