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re: Miles will not be making any changes to the OLine

Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:54 pm to
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Ok...help me understand something about your mindset. I'm curious because it seems to be shared by many on here who have in common a negative view of things.

We have on our staff, a HC, an OC/line coach, a RB coach, a TE coach and probably a couple more offensive coaches that I am missing. All these guys are professional football coaches who have risen to the top of their profession. Good enough to be hired as a coach at one of the top 5 CFB programs in the country. What is it that makes you think that they aren't working on all sorts of options and contingencies as they apply to the offense?

What leads you to belive that all their years of experience at both coaching playing football has gone to waste and they can't see things that ranters think are simple solutions? I mean how do people get there in their minds. I just don't get it. What leads a guy like Maximus and others like him to think they can see things that the staff cannot? Are they CEO's of big companies and just solve football problems in their spare time. Or are they actually clueless enough to think they are actually smarter than the guys who do it for a living. Please explain it to me cuz I just don't get it!

I just wanted to move this post to the next page.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:55 pm to
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What leads a guy like Maximus and others like him to think they can see things that the staff cannot? Are they CEO's of big companies and just solve football problems in their spare time. Or are they actually clueless enough to think they are actually smarter than the guys who do it for a living. Please explain it to me cuz I just don't get it!


basic penis envy...
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:55 pm to
FORE!!! How are Hester and Scott doing in the NFL?
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:56 pm to
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lsuexpert57
quote:

What leads you to belive that all their years of experience at both coaching playing football has gone to waste and they can't see things that ranters think are simple solutions? I mean how do people get there in their minds. I just don't get it. What leads a guy like Maximus and others like him to think they can see things that the staff cannot? Are they CEO's of big companies and just solve football problems in their spare time. Or are they actually clueless enough to think they are actually smarter than the guys who do it for a living. Please explain it to me cuz I just don't get it!
There is a God.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
25676 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:56 pm to
Will increase chop blocking.

Signed,

Butthurt Auburn Fans
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:57 pm to
Maximuz are you going to answer the man's questioN? are you a CEO of a big company or not? If not, then GTFO!
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:58 pm to
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Tiger Ryno
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Maximuz are you going to answer the man's questioN? are you a CEO of a big company or not? If not, then GTFO!

Amen and Amen!!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:59 pm to
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explain how he played well all game besides the 2 sacks that were everybody else's fault yet somehow the DE in front of him was either making the tackle in the backfield on every running play or disrupting the running play?

Lemonier had ONE tackle besides the two sacks.

One.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:00 pm to
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It's just that not only did he get sacked, he also had a fumble forced on the play by Lemonier. Which was recovered by Auburn. Who then went on to score a TD.


At risk at beating a dead horse, if you get a chance watch the play on the CST reply since they generally have a wider angle and you can see the secondary play and the route combinations better....tell me if what I THINK I saw is what you see.

Landry was the inside receiver in a two receiver set on the right side and he did a quick out while the outside reciever ran a deep route. Landry, seemingly, had some separation and Mett looked right at him like he was the intended target, but then inexplicably, Mett pulled it down, turned back inside and then took the sack from Lemonier. There was plenty of time for him to make that throw and it seemed clear to me that Landry was the primary receiver on that play.

So while JD can correctly be blamed for other missed blocks during the game, I think on that "particular" play he did enough. Was it the best cut block ever thrown? No, but IMO it was good enough.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80560 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:02 pm to
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Lemonier had ONE tackle besides the two sacks.

One.


But how many QB pressures did he have? I suspect enough that LSU was suddenly running roll out passes away from him in the second half.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:04 pm to
I agree with you for the most part...but remember, Gary Crowton made it to the top of the ladder and John L Smith is now head coach of Arkansas
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 4:05 pm
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:04 pm to
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There is a God.


Hmmmm...."GOD"....now that has a nice ring to it!!

Could you make it "Tiger Droppings GOD"?

Posted by lsuexpert57
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:05 pm to
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I agree with you for the most part...but remember, Gary Crowton made it to the top of the ladded and John L Smith is now head coach of Arkansas


Damn, now I just feel foolish.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:06 pm to
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How are Hester and Scott doing in the NFL?


BOOM!!!
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:07 pm to
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But how many QB pressures did he have? I suspect enough that LSU was suddenly running roll out passes away from him in the second half.


I didn't actually count any pressures as I replayed the game. That said however, part of the reason for that was the play calling was making sure to account for him..with the roll outs being part of that. If JD had been on a island all night and we had throw a bunch of 7 step drops in the pocket I'm sure Lemonier would have had a bunch of pressures and sacks.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:10 pm to
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Lemonier had ONE tackle besides the two sacks.

One.


who was the guy in the 55 jersey that the RBs had to avoid 5 yards deep in the backfield every play to the left?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19045 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:10 pm to
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lsuexpert57 & GFunk


Some excellent posts from both. Thanks.

I don't have capability to rewatch the entire game but someone posted a handful of highlights here.

On the fumble play, if JD was supposed to cut his man (as Blackledge suggests), then I think he did ok (not great but certainly well enough for Mett to make a quick throw). Since none of the other OL did my guess is JD elected to try that on his own.

I don't know if JD played poorly throughout the game or on a handful of prominent plays, but we seemed to let it affect our entire playcalling and scheme. As well as our D plays, asking them to hold the other team under 12 pts is risky. O needs to get it in gear.


PS: have to enjoy Ware bringing the pain on the AU DB at the end of the throw back pass.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:18 pm to
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But how many QB pressures did he have?

I was just replying to this:
quote:

somehow the DE in front of him was either making the tackle in the backfield on every running play or disrupting the running play

...which made it sound like Lemonier was a tackling machine out there when he was not.

Was he disruptive? Yes, he's an NFL quality DE.

Is JD an NFL quality LT? Probably not.

But the fact is that Lemonier was credited with 3 total tackles, all solo, and one QB hurry.

I'd rather have LSU's o-line than Auburn's, that's for sure.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:20 pm to
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who was the guy in the 55 jersey that the RBs had to avoid 5 yards deep in the backfield every play to the left?

The problem now is that you've lost credibility with your exaggeration, that's all.

Nothing personal.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47408 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 4:21 pm to
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geez. this is the re-inserting JJ of 2012. Goodbye national title hopes.



I've come to realize , you are the Bham Dore of LSU fans.
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