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Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:28 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Annoyed that you fools won't go away. That's one of the problems with the internet: everyone gets a voice, even the idiots.
Says the guy that resorts to name calling when someone has a different opinion? Yeah, you're a genius bro.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:28 am to SpookeyTiger
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. Les Miles will do what is best for LSU to win.
This is not always the case.......
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:33 am to Dieter Von Cunth
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Says the guy that resorts to name calling when someone has a different opinion? Yeah, you're a genius bro.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:35 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I will cheer like hell for whoever is in the game at any time
There is no possible way anyone could guess what Les is thinking (he has proven that). Hopefully we will be in a position to give both some PT, and some light is shed on each quarterback's game day ability. I personally like the fact that Jennings is having to fight for his job and hope he can retain it, but will cheer for whichever one is leading the team on the field.
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:48 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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I see you keep avoiding the fact that Jefferson saved the day versus Alabama in the regular season, which allowed us to play in the BCS title game.
He really didn't do that much in the reg season game. The "D" is what saved the day for us there.
And his total lack of respect for Jarret Lee by not giving him a shot in the title game is just like saying he WASN'T doing what was the best for the team.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:50 am to dukke v
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He really didn't do that much in the reg season game. The "D" is what saved the day for us there.
He didn't throw 2 crucial ints. He did lead us to a first half touchdown and set up the winning field goal.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:52 am to dukke v
quote:Not much, maybe. Just enough to win.
He really didn't do that much in the reg season game. The "D" is what saved the day for us there.
quote:Except that he was doing the best thing to win the game. Jefferson gave LSU a better chance to win than Lee.
And his total lack of respect for Jarret Lee by not giving him a shot in the title game is just like saying he WASN'T doing what was the best for the team.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:54 am to Football_Freak
41 down votes, nice work. I guess that means most believe you dont know shite
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:57 am to Salviati
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Except that he was doing the best thing to win the game. Jefferson gave LSU a better chance to win than Lee.
I find it hard to believe that you actually think Lee could've done any worse than JJ in the NCG.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:02 am to Salviati
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I suppose you can attempt to debate it. I suppose you can disagree. I suppose you could craft arguments to support your position. You'd be wrong, of course, but I don't doubt that you'd debate and disagree. You're free to be wrong wholeheartedly.
I'm not going to turn this thread into another Jefferson vs Lee debate, because that has already been had ad nauseum. But if you really believe that Jefferson was somehow unquestionably a better quarterback or warranted all the snaps in the champ game, you are a simple minded idiot.
Numerous players on that team don't even agree. Just because Miles makes a decision doesn't mean it's infallible. I guess you think one of the worst offensive performances in championship history was the best we could do?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:04 am to Dieter Von Cunth
quote:The problem wasn't Jefferson. The problem was the offensive line. They couldn’t move the Bama D-line and they couldn’t hold them back either. There was no run game, and there was no time to pass.
I find it hard to believe that you actually think Lee could've done any worse than JJ in the NCG.
If anything, Jefferson in the pocket slowed down the Bama rush because Bama used a mush rush to contain Jefferson and prevent him from running. It’s the same idea LSU used against Manziel to keep him from breaking off long runs. Slow the rush and contain the QB. Bama would not have used a mush rush against Lee because Lee is no threat to run.
So if Miles put in Lee, there’s still no run game, and now there is even less time to pass. If there is one thing Bama feasts on, it’s immobile pocket passers. Lee’s numbers against Bama confirm this fact. His QB Rating against Bama could fit in a shoe box. And people talk about the tragedy of throwing Lee into the fire during his redshirt freshman year.
During 2011, "efficient" is the single word that defined Lee. You'll be hard pressed to find a post about Lee without the word "efficient" just a few words away. The thing about being defined as “efficient” is that it means that you aren’t a prolific passer; you don’t throw it a lot. In fact, it typically means that the offense is run-oriented and passes infrequently. Prior to the Bama game, Lee averaged less than 20 passes per game. Lee had only one game in 2011 in which he threw for more than 200 yards: 213 yards against Mississippi State. Lee wasn’t a prolific passer. He was efficient.
Efficient works when your team can run the ball effectively. Efficient means that the defense is focused on stopping the run. Efficient means that the defense is not expecting a pass. Efficient means that you have time to throw because the defense is not focuses on stopping the pass. Efficient does not work when you aren’t running well. Efficient does not work when your line can’t block. Bama’s D was suffocating that night. Bama would have killed Lee.
LSU should not have been playing Bama. LSU beat Bama at their house in the Game of the Century. You play the hand you’re dealt, but it was a raw deal.
Bama was playing for redemption. Bama had lost with their prior offensive strategy, so they were forced to abandon it. Saban took the ball out of Richardson’s hands and made McCarron win the game. Bama threw on nearly every first down. It was a risky strategy, but what did Bama have to lose. They had already lost to LSU trying to run the ball. McCarron had a terrific night; thus, the strategy worked.
Even though Bama had flipped its offensive strategy, it does not necessarily mean that LSU should have. Hindsight is always 20/20, and we know now that LSU’s plan did not work. However, LSU trailed Georgia 10-0 and at the half in the SECCG. The offense was atrocious the first half but came around in the second half, and LSU blew out Georgia. With a few dozen plays left, it was not unreasonable for Miles to go with the strategy that worked so well in the SECCG. It was at least as reasonable as trying a QB that was the antithesis of the ideal QB to use against Bama.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:11 am to ChewyDante
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Numerous players on that team don't even agree
Numerous? How many?
Players? Who?
Thank you for providing documented reliable sources.
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:17 am to Dieter Von Cunth
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I find it hard to believe that you actually think Lee could've done any worse than JJ in the NCG.
Compare their careers against Alabama
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:18 am to Salviati
I really wish we could ban all of the idiots who still want to bitch and fight about JJ vs JL.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:20 am to notiger1997
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I really wish we could ban all of the idiots who still want to bitch and fight about JJ vs JL.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:20 am to Salviati
Unfrickingbelievable i'm still seeing JJ vs JL debates on here. Turn the damn page people.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:22 am to ChewyDante
quote:Too late. You already did.
I'm not going to turn this thread into another Jefferson vs Lee debate, because that has already been had ad nauseum.
quote:Sticks, stones, not a compelling argument.
But if you really believe that Jefferson was somehow unquestionably a better quarterback or warranted all the snaps in the champ game, you are a simple minded idiot.
quote:They're wrong too. So what?
Numerous players on that team don't even agree.
quote:Bravo. You finally made a coherent and accurate statement. However, Miles was right on this decision.
Just because Miles makes a decision doesn't mean it's infallible.
quote:On that night, based on what LSU's o-line was doing? Yes, that was probably the best LSU could do.
I guess you think one of the worst offensive performances in championship history was the best we could do?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:22 am to Dieter Von Cunth
quote:Yeah, and it had big words in it too.
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