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re: Miles: QB situation not settled

Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:33 am to
Posted by LSUfan4444
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:33 am to
of course it is...it shows how flawed your logic is

even if not bet, what odds do you give Lee to win the starting job?

JJ has a lead right now, so i'd give it 60-40 (maybe 65-35)

what say you? and remember, to this point you have basically given Lee 0% chance of winning the job...so, is it still 0%? if it is, me giving you 10% is a pretty good deal for you if you really believe your previous statements

its put up or shut up time
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 8:34 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:42 am to
Who do I think will be taking the first snaps in the washington game?

JJ, barring injury.

Posted by LSUfan4444
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:48 am to

quote:

Who do I think will be taking the first snaps in the washington game?


huh?



what odds do you give to lee to win the starting job?
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 8:49 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:51 am to
about -5%

Posted by LSUfan4444
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:54 am to
okay, so i'll put up $5 and you put up $95

if $5 isn't worth your time, than what is $100?

if thats the case, i'll put up $100 (20x5) and you put up $1900 (20x95)?

if you really believe that, this should be a no brainer
Posted by LSUfan4444
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:56 am to
and again, i'm not saying i think Lee will win the job

i am saying the same things i have said all along

it is WAYYY too early to tell and you don't have access to nearly the amount of info you would need in August, much less March

i just believe in the odds i would be getting
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:56 am to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:57 am to
quote:

it is WAYYY too early to tell


I don't know the future, and never claimed to know it.

but as a guess on a messageboard, I would guess that jefferson would be the starting QB for LSU next year.
Posted by cepheid
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:58 am to
starting QB odds if JJ gets badly injured and cant play all season.

Shepard 45%........JL 25%.......Chris Garrett 25%....other 5%

We would most likely have to switch the offense to a simpler wildcat formation type offense with Shepard running it. Occasionaly bringing in JL or Garrett (whichever one wins the backup spot) for a change up to a more conventional type offense.
Posted by cepheid
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 9:02 am to
Watch for chris garretts odds to increase through spring and fall camp. The previous odds given are the projected odds for the end of fall camp with an injury to JJ, not the current odds.
Posted by cepheid
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 9:10 am to
What if Jarret Lee suddenly gets the 'Eye of the Tiger' and starts nailing passes left and right, underneath, and down the field. Moving the ball, touchdowns, no interceptions. Shows great field generalship. Regains his confidence and the confidence of his teammates, coaches and the fans. I really hope that happens as any LSU fan would, why wouldn't they. It just doesn't seem likely but it could happen.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 9:13 am to
quote:

don't know the future, and never claimed to know it.


yes you have...numerous times

and no, i am not going to dig through hundreds of your posts to find one

if you deny you have said something to the affect like "JJ is the starter in 2009" then you are just a flat out liar


quote:

I would guess that jefferson would be the starting QB for LSU next year.


thats a backpeddle if i have ever see one, but i guess a backpeddle is betetr than risking $1900

MOST people here areb't contesting that issue

most people agree it will likely be JJ, BUT most are not suggesting the competition is as closed as you keep saying...even the head coach

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 9:15 am to
quote:

It just doesn't seem likely but it could happen.


why not? didn't you just watch mathew stafford do it?

similar styles, stafford has a better arm, but lee had a better freshman season.. stafford was recruited a bit higher, but lee comes from a football fmialy that understands how to deal with adversity

why does it seem unlikely? where are you pulling this info from?
Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:19 am to
I'm pulling this info from watching JJ play OK against Ark, his first game as a true freshman, and play very well, winning the MVP of the chic-fil bowl his 2nd game, displaying size and atheletic ability, a strong fairly accurate arm, abililty not to stare down recievers, find his secondary recievers, improvisational skills (the underhand pass), field generalship, confidence in himself, from his teammates, and from his coaches. All this in his second game, a big game, as a true freshman.
Sometimes a person is put in a situation in life that seems imposible to handle, that they are no where ready for, but they manage to rise up and exceed expectations other times they don't. JJ did , JL didn't.
JL performed as you might expect a redshirt freshman to perform (very eratically ) when thrown into circumstances that were unexpected and he wasn't yet ready to handle. He will improve and it still might just come together for him in a great way. Who knows.
Posted by hotrod
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:25 am to
you make on sense what so fuking ever.
first you say RS starts over JL if JJ goes down..
then you say watch out for CG
then you say something about eye of tiger and JL.

this QB battle (barring injury) is a 2 man race between JL and JJ.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:25 am to
quote:

I'm pulling this info from watching JJ play OK against Ark, his first game as a true freshman, and play very well, winning the MVP of the chic-fil bowl his 2nd game, displaying size and atheletic ability, a strong fairly accurate arm, abililty not to stare down recievers, find his secondary recievers, improvisational skills (the underhand pass), field generalship, confidence in himself, from his teammates, and from his coaches.


thats alot of words to read but has very little to do with lee's ability to regain his confidence and the confidence of his teammates and coaches. the fans, well, they're a different story but fans prove year in year out how irrational and dumb they are
Posted by cepheid
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:37 am to
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Posted by cepheid
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:40 am to
quote:

this QB battle (barring injury) is a 2 man race between JL and JJ.


that's not what Les Miles says in the Times-Picayune article linked in the original post. He seems to indicate it's a two man battle between JJ and Shep, and lumps CG and JL together.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:42 am to
quote:

He seems to indicate it's a two man battle between JJ and Shep, and lumps CG and JL together.


no, thats just the way it was written...even some sports writers are concluding RS to be the guy...even when miles tells them different in an interview

miles discussed how much pt Sheppard would get and using him in different positions, but the QB battle is between JL and JJ with Rs competing with both of them for his fair share of snaps for the "wild tiger"
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 11:10 am to
I love how when ever the people supporting JJ say something bad about lee the lee lovers call them stupid and not sensible. Yet if it's the other way around with the lee lovers say negative stuff about jj(which usually has very little truth too it) all should listen and agree like it is the word of god
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