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re: Miles: QB situation not settled

Posted on 3/5/09 at 11:50 am to
Posted by hotrod
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 11:50 am to
tell me exactly what Neg stuff has been said about JJ .?

to compare the things said about JL vs those about JJ and to even REMOTELY suggest they are similar is absurd and you know it.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5365 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 11:57 am to
This thread will never die.

VIVA LA QB THREAD
Posted by Cussian
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Mar 2008
1731 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 12:10 pm to
I know the future.

JJ will start the first game.

Book it, bitch
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 12:11 pm to


Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84643 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

I know the future.

JJ will start the first game.

I do not know the future.

but...

JJ will start the first game.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57057 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

I know the future.

JJ will start the first game.

Book it, bitch

put your $ where your mouth is...since Lee has no chance in your book to start give me 100-1 odds

i put up $10 and you put up $1000

you can't predict how many guys you'll fellate next weekend much less anything about LSU's qb situation


Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Next time, don't call someone out on a bet if you don't really mean it.
I did mean it. You were the one certain that Lee has no chance of starting. If you are so certain, why not man up and put certain money behind it? Otherwise, you are just being a dick because you know Lee has a chance, just like the rest of us. So why are you arguing?

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

it's my best educated guess from the evidence put forth in front of me.
And do you realize there are many more months of evidence to come? If you are not claiming it is a certainty, why would you call people foolish or naive or dumb who have all along only said that Lee has a chance at winning the starting job?

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57057 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

You were the one certain that Lee has no chance of starting. If you are so certain, why not man up and put certain money behind it?


now he says Lee has only a 5% chance of winning the job, but he still won't back up his words with cash

quote:

you are just being a dick because you know Lee has a chance, just like the rest of us. So why are you arguing?


just being a dick



he knows lee stands better than a 5% chance to win the job, but if he admits it he looks like a moron for saying the 09 job was JJ's since last December

if he honestly believed Lee only stood a 5% chance to win the job, he'd jump on my bet offereing Lee only a 1% chance at winning the job
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I don't know the future, and never claimed to know it.
So you were calling people's opinion silly just for the hell of it, even though it was the same opinion as yours. Nice.

I have said all along -- repeatedly -- that I believe Jefferson is more likely to win the starting job than Lee, but that Lee has a chance because I don't know what the future holds for either player. You have disagreed for dozens of pages with that opinion. Now you turn around and announce that you have exactly the same opinion.

Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
2003 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:36 pm to
Give me a reason why Lee should start..? I mean:

After Aubrun, he choked in all of are big game situations

He continuosly got worse as the season went on

He threw pic six after pick six

He never should tremendous leadership skills

We had a losing record with him at the helm(3-4)
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Prove to me how he is going to rally over the QB which people were comparing to Pryor, a QB who is a much better leader then him, and lead our team to the largest margin of victory over an AP ranked opponent this year(our only victory actually over an AP ranked team). The offense with JJ at the helm averaged 34 points and only 25 with Lee. Im sorry all the facts here and considering Lee couldnt handle the big game hype gives me no reason to believe he should start over JJ.

The much more reasonable argument here is seriuously JL or CG.

I mean Miles said in that article JJ and Russell have a chance to start, and was like "oh yea, Jarett Lee is on the team too stil, so is Chris Garett and this walk-on..."

Im gonna read it how Miles said it and not finagle the english language to make it sound like I would want to hear it, if I was a Lee Lover.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57057 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Im gonna read it how Miles said it


okay..do that

don't read how the author wrote it, but how miles said it

quote:

The start and finish -- where you start spring, it's like being ahead at halftime," Miles said when asked directly if Jefferson is atop the depth chart. "I think Jordan made a heck of a point with how he finished the season, and he should be a strong consideration for the quarterback spot."


quote:

"We're going to allow great competition this spring, not only at that position but at others," he concluded


quote:

"I don't know there's an 'instead' going on yet," he said. "I think we need to develop down the line at quarterback as well, and I think he's also a guy that might have some other pieces of the offense for him. But I think it's a little premature at this point to determine that. I think we'll look at it more as spring goes on, to be honest with you."


right there it is obvious he was talking about lee and JJ and then commented on Sheppard "as well"/in addition to...BUT, the writer didn't write it that way

and the one that says it all

quote:

"It's one of those things you just don't know," he said. "You can't presume. It's what spring happens for."
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Give me a reason why Lee should start
The same reason any other QB should ever start; because he is the guy that gives us the best chance for success. If that's Lee, he should start. If that's Jefferson, he should start. And I am WAY more confident in Miles' ability to judge that than my own or anyone else's on this board. So if Miles sends Lee out there to be the starter, I'm confident that it is because Lee is the one who gives us the best chance for success. If it is Jefferson he sends out there, I'm confident that it is because Jefferson is the one who gives us teh best chance for success. If it's Shepard or Garrett, I'll be just as confident. The point is, we don't know now who the best QB will be in September, and it doesn't matter if we know now. It doesn't even matter if Miles knows now. All that matters is that Miles knows come September. And I am confident that he will.

But no one -- no one -- in this thread actually knows who the starter will be. We are all identical in our ignorance in that respect. There area only two significant differences between the people arguing in this thread:

1) some realize we don't know, and some don't realize they don't know

2) some realize it doesn't matter if anybody knows until the fall, and some feel it is important that THEY know right now.

Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
1638 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

put your $ where your mouth is...
quote:

give me 100-1 odds


100-1 odds pretty much equals no chance. It doesn't seem you really do believe that JL has a chance to start. I guess 1% is better than 0%, but it really doesn't back up your arguement. Even I put him at 10% chance that he starts against Washington barring any injuries. But if JJ doesn't start, I would feel a lot more comfortable seeing CG under center than JL with what I know right now.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57057 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I would feel a lot more comfortable seeing CG under center than JL with what I know right now.


and that is absolutely absurd

quote:

it really doesn't back up your arguement


i don't even think you know what my argument is
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
2003 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:03 pm to
There you go highlighting things and twisting words. And devolping QBs down the lines i would say clearly implies JL in the aspect Miles said it with the starting competition between Jefferson and Shepard.
Posted by LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Member since Jan 2009
2003 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

and that is absolutely absurd


In your opion, and apparently he thinks ur opion is BS!

JL had his shot, did nothing with it besides crash and burn.

JJ then got his big shot vs GT and embraced every second of it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57057 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

There you go highlighting things and twisting words


those are the exact quotes from miles...i didn't twist anything..the author of the article did

quote:

Miles said it with the starting competition between Jefferson and Shepard.


he never said that

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57057 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

JL had his shot, did nothing with it besides crash and burn.

JJ then got his big shot vs GT and embraced every second of it.


Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

those are the exact quotes from miles...i didn't twist anything..the author of the article did
quote:

he never said that
You know it is amazing to me how much trouble some people have figuring out what was actually said by a person quoted in an article, and what was made up by the "journalist" writing the article.

I remember when I was a kid I got a "red letter edition" of the King James Bible, where everything that Jesus actually said was printed in red. I feel like some people need that in every newspaper or magazine story, so they can clearly see what is actually being said, and what is not (since they are clearly oblivious to the quaint usages like quotation marks).

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