re: Miles-Krag and the JJ situation

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Now that's just sound logic.

I am objective to a fault.

I rate our current QB's like so:

JJ: 4.5
JL: 4.0
Mett: 4-5 (still an unknown commodity)

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I haven't bothered to read your back and forth but I'm curious on what objective basis did you come up with your ranking?

Is it a 10 point scale? If so, on what basis is a a guy who throws for 1400 yards and 7 TDs in 13 games a 4.5 out of 10. For heaven's sake, Josh Nesbitt is a wishbone QB with a rag arm and he had better passing stats.

And if it is a 10 point scale, is 5 average? If so, are you saying that at his best Zach Mettenberger cannot do much more better than 4 total yards v. McNeese State?

Look, plenty of teams have won the BCS title without a lot of experience and/or stellar QB play. Tennesee/Tee Martin, Ohio State/Craig Krenzel, LSU/Matt Mauck, Alabam/Greg McElroy. But none of them sucked. Not one. JJ, by any measure, sucks. We may not know how GOOD Mettenberger is, but he cannot possibly suck as bad as JJ. It's just not possible. So in essence, we're betting $5 on 500-to-1 odds but with a 50% chance of winning. You take that bet, man. You just do.

For the record, Josh Nesbitt and JJ each throw 7 TDS. However, JJ threw 10 picks to Josh's 4. And JJ took one shy of double the number of passes (209 to 105) that Nesbitt did to amass his 7 TD passes.

He sucks. We should move on.

I love all the posts that ask "What does criticizing JJ accomplish?"

Stupid question. What does talking about anything on here accomplish. It's a forum. People come here to discuss things that they're interested in. Who would have thought?

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Look, plenty of teams have won the BCS title without a lot of experience and/or stellar QB play. Tennesee/Tee Martin, Ohio State/Craig Krenzel, LSU/Matt Mauck, Alabam/Greg McElroy. But none of them sucked. Not one. JJ, by any measure, sucks. We may not know how GOOD Mettenberger is, but he cannot possibly suck as bad as JJ. It's just not possible. So in essence, we're betting $5 on 500-to-1 odds but with a 50% chance of winning. You take that bet, man. You just do.

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You don't think the team could possibly lose more than one game with a first year starter at QB?

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It could, or it may go undefeated. Who knows?

It's not going to take a lot to beat the level of QB play we saw the past three years though. If Mett can't top that, we are pretty much screwed.

Roaad again my point is there is no way you can objectively prove who would win more games as the starting qb. However if one starter is the worst in the conference and the backup performs better in less time it is reasonable to assume the backup would outperform him given more playing time. However there is no way to replay the season.

It would be the same argument in reverse if I said Tom Brady's backup could have won more games this past year than Tom Brady did. You cannot objectively prove me wrong since the season cannot be replayed even though any knowledgable observer would tell you that I was wrong/

Oh and JJ is as bad as he is made out to be on here. 2 consecutive seasons where he cant break the top 100 in passing offense!!

This is why I think my thread should have been stickied...
Hell we have this thread twice a week, the reason posters come off a certain way is because they state their feelings each time. The thing is they are stating the same thing each time but because it is a new thread people see them as taking more shots at LSU players.
I doubt anyone in this thread has said anything new that we haven't heard before. I bet everything that has been typed has been typed countless times over the past 3 seasons.
That is why I love these threads.... people get so upset in them.

It provides me a diversion.

Plus I get to allow these kids to think they are coming up with original arguments.

I'd call it an intellectual exercise, but there is nothing really intellectual going on in this thread.