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re: Miles just took full blame for the Alabama loss...
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:58 pm to uway
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:58 pm to uway
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And I know more than you do
You don't.
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so shut up.
I won't
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Wait, what's that? "Shut up" isn't an argument? Then stop using it yourself.
Did I tell you to shut up?
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Learn how to discuss things or leave the discussion board. Maybe?
You seem to be all upset. Maybe it's YOU that needs a time out? Ya think?
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:20 pm to Gray Tiger
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Did I tell you to shut up?
Yes many times. What else do you call repeatedly accusing people of crying, saying not to talk about certain things b/c they have already happened, b/c I'm not a coach, etc?
Have some self-awareness.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:25 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Anyone know what LEe is up to these days. Haven't seen much since Chargers cut him.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:35 pm to 31commander
hopefully Lee is regrowing his soul patch...
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:06 pm to uway
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Yes many times
Please provide me with a quote where I said to you,"shut up". Thanks
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Have some self-awareness.
I have great self awareness. I am aware that the professional staff knows more about football than I do. I am aware that coming onto a website and crying about things that have happened and over which I have and will never have the power to change is immature. I have total awareness that sometmes bad things happen, but I am able to shrug them off as a part of life. I am aware that playing what if or wouldda couldaa shouldaa is a fools game. I'm aware that risks are taken in a game. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. I'm aware that the same coach that is lauded for a fake field goal that worked is the same man that is panned because the same decision didn't work by people that think they know more.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:43 pm to LongTime Tiger
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Find another standard to support you argument
For who? You? There are plenty already given from other posters.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 3:45 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:If that's the only standard he has to live up to, then why the hell are we paying someone $4 million to let fate or the odds determine the outcome? Hell, I'll take the money, coach the team, and just blame the fact that the odds didn't work in my favor every time something goes wrong. What a gig!
All of the coaching staff know more about football than you ever will. Sometimes things work, sometimes, they don't. That's life
Posted on 12/18/12 at 4:39 pm to LSU Groupee
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2008 JL threw 4 picks and had a QB rating of 65,
2009 JL threw one pick with a QB rating of 60.
2010 JL threw 7 passes with no picks and a QB rating of 130.
2011 JL threw 7 passes with 2 picks with a QB rating of 15.
What more of JL playing Alabama would any LSU need to see?
Well, from the info you provided, I'd say the 2010 numbers look worthy of getting at least a series or two. Lee had a poor game at Alabama in 2011, but it's not like Jefferson came in and tore it up.
In my opinion, Miles handled the Lee and Jefferson situation terribly. He appeared to prefer Jefferson when Lee looked like the better QB to me, especially in 2011. Lee and the offense started to fall apart as soon as Jefferson was reinstated. If Jefferson would have been suspended for the entire year, I fully believe that we would have had that perfect, best ever season, because Miles' hand would have been forced and he would have had to play Lee. I also suspect that Lee would have played much better against Alabama without Jefferson in uniform because he wouldn't have been looking over his shoulder the whole time. I believe that most people recognized that Miles preferred Jefferson. It's not surprising that the performance of the player who was not preferred would be seriously affected by the reemergence and increased playing time of Jefferson. Imo, it would take a very special person to maintain complete confidence in their abilities under these circumstances and not be negatively affected by the situation.
If this is true, who knows if it is, then there is no telling how effective or ineffective Lee would have been in the Championship game because at this point, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain and his propensity to mind-frick himself (very understandable because Miles set this mind-frick up), no longer would have existed since we were down and Jefferson was playing so poorly.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 4:46 pm to JR Hamilsbach
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Lee had a poor game at Alabama in 2011
Like he always did.
Just let it go.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 4:51 pm to uway
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We are DISCUSSING it.
Sounds more like the whining of a two years who didn't get his way.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 4:58 pm to JR Hamilsbach
quote:Can't be perfect when you lose to bama...
I fully believe that we would have had that perfect, best ever season
Don't you love speculating...
quote:WTF!
I also suspect that Lee would have played much better against Alabama without Jefferson in uniform because he wouldn't have been looking over his shoulder the whole time.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:00 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:It's all about the contract...
then why the hell are we paying someone $4 million
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:00 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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If that's the only standard he has to live up to, then why the hell are we paying someone $4 million to let fate or the odds determine the outcome?
So you want a guarantee that every play will work.
Sounds about right for some of you.
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Hell, I'll take the money, coach the team, and just blame the fact that the odds didn't work in my favor every time something goes wrong. What a gig!
Yep it's that simple.
Now all you have to do is win lots and lots of football games to get and keep such an easy job.
Why don't you do it? Check the coaching changes board and send out your resumes. Now be sure to guarantee NO LOSSES because that's what you are demanding of Les Miles. It can't be that hard can it? Go ahead and do it. Please let us know where you land so we can all be rooting for you.
And of course we will damming you every time something goes wrong and you don't win. But you can handle that can't you? I mean you are so quick to do it. Winning is so easy. Just post crapola on a message board months after the fact.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:08 pm to That LSU Guy
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I also suspect that Lee would have played much better against Alabama without Jefferson in uniform because he wouldn't have been looking over his shoulder the whole time.
WTF!
My opinion is that by giving and increasing Jefferson playing time over the course of the season, Lee lost confidence in his abilities and his role as the starting QB on the football team. Lee played lights out earlier in the season (Oregon), but later, play deteriorated. It is my opinion that the reason for this change was directly related to the situation created by Miles.
What's your opinion? That Lee was never any good and Miles handled the situation appropriately? Do you think that other people in a similar situation as Lee might also look over their shoulder in that situation and begin to doubt their own play and abilities? I do.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:44 pm to slackster
No link, I am at the year-end banquet, but Miles just said the head coach let down the team and didn't try to pass for a first down to run out the last 1:30.
Fixed it for ya.
Fixed it for ya.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:57 pm to TigerOne
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didn't try to pass for a first down to run out the last 1:30.
And if the pass is intercepted for a pick 6, how badly would you be crying today about that bad play?
Please quit. You are making a fool of yourself.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:23 pm to Gray Tiger
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And if the pass is intercepted for a pick 6, how badly would you be crying today about that bad play?
I'm ok with Miles, but not a huge supporter and I know that your statement wasn't directed at me, but I would have welcomed the attempt and pick 6 if that was the result. My problem with the offense and with Miles has been the ultra-conservative risk-averse philosophy that has taken over the team for the past few seasons. I don't disapprove of Miles trying to go for it on 4th several times in that game because I want to see them take chances and believe in themselves. The opportunity to close out the game, but not pulling the trigger on the pass play call, however, appears to be a regression into that same bland philosophy that has plagued us for a number of seasons. I hope Miles gets his balls back, and it appears like he is en route to doing so since they became more aggressive on offense towards the end of the season. I believe that it is Miles' lack of confidence in himself/team and his fears of what might go wrong that are what's holding back the team from being better than they have shown, which is still quite an achievement.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:27 pm to JR Hamilsbach
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I'm ok with Miles, but not a huge supporter and I know that your statement wasn't directed at me, but I would have welcomed the attempt and pick 6 if that was the result. My problem with the offense and with Miles has been the ultra-conservative risk-averse philosophy that has taken over the team for the past few seasons. I don't disapprove of Miles trying to go for it on 4th several times in that game because I want to see them take chances and believe in themselves. The opportunity to close out the game, but not pulling the trigger on the pass play call, however, appears to be a regression into that same bland philosophy that has plagued us for a number of seasons. I hope Miles gets his balls back, and it appears like he is en route to doing so since they became more aggressive on offense towards the end of the season. I believe that it is Miles' lack of confidence in himself/team and his fears of what might go wrong that are what's holding back the team from being better than they have shown, which is still quite an achievement.
Thank you Dr. Phil
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:50 pm to JR Hamilsbach
quote:LSU won because of defense, and special teams last year, NOT the QB.
My opinion is that by giving and increasing Jefferson playing time over the course of the season, Lee lost confidence in his abilities and his role as the starting QB on the football team. Lee played lights out earlier in the season (Oregon), but later, play deteriorated. It is my opinion that the reason for this change was directly related to the situation created by Miles.
What's your opinion? That Lee was never any good and Miles handled the situation appropriately? Do you think that other people in a similar situation as Lee might also look over their shoulder in that situation and begin to doubt their own play and abilities? I do.
If Lee had over the shoulder syndrome (I don't believe he had it), then he was never fit to be a QB in the first place.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:51 pm to JR Hamilsbach
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I'm ok with Miles, but not a huge supporter and I know that your statement wasn't directed at me, but I would have welcomed the attempt and pick 6 if that was the result. My problem with the offense and with Miles has been the ultra-conservative risk-averse philosophy that has taken over the team for the past few seasons. I don't disapprove of Miles trying to go for it on 4th several times in that game because I want to see them take chances and believe in themselves. The opportunity to close out the game, but not pulling the trigger on the pass play call, however, appears to be a regression into that same bland philosophy that has plagued us for a number of seasons. I hope Miles gets his balls back, and it appears like he is en route to doing so since they became more aggressive on offense towards the end of the season. I believe that it is Miles' lack of confidence in himself/team and his fears of what might go wrong that are what's holding back the team from being better than they have shown, which is still quite an achievement.
Shut up, tool.
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