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Miles and Recruiting

Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:25 pm
Posted by 12inches
Marisa Miller's dreams
Member since Apr 2007
4693 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:25 pm
Miles is given a lot of credit for being a great recruiter and his recruiting classes back that up. But is it his ability to recruit or is it that LSU is in a talent rich area and plays the best competition year in and year out? How many others coaches can come in and continue to bring in top talent?

Both Saban and Dinardo brought in good talent also, but one was not able to produce with it.

This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Big Fat
"Fear the Hat" returns 2010
Member since Sep 2009
5404 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:26 pm to
Respectfully, Dinardo did not bring in talent anywhere close to the level of Saban.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18546 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Miles is given a lot of credit for being a great recruiter and his recruiting classes back that up. But is it his ability to recruit or is it that LSU is in a talent rich area and plays the best competition year in and year out?


why do you think Florida, USC, Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas always have good recruiting classes. While the head coach can make a difference in bringing a handful of guys in, its all about location.

Posted by Port City
Baton Rouge/Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
3668 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

why do you think Florida, USC, Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas always have good recruiting classes.


One of these is not like the others.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Florida, USC, Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas always have good recruiting classes



FAIL
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2038 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Dinardo did not bring in talent anywhere close to the level of Saban


That's BS...there are plenty of Dinardo's guys that are still in the NFL now...Our '01 team was mostly DiNardo's recruits.

Believe it or not, Coaches not named Saban can also recruit well here.
Posted by PistolaVeloce
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2009
428 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:36 pm to
from the recruiting board, Z. Lee's uncle:


quote:

BTW, My sister, brother-in-law and mainly Zach have so much respect for your HFB coach.. He is a genuine family man and his sincerity is what swayed Zach's decision.. That and a chance to keep playing both sports..
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:40 pm to
Miles can recruit and has held LSU's football program together when many said he couldn't do it.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58480 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:43 pm to
fans can bitch about a lot of things with coach miles but recruiting isnt one of them . he is up there with the best in the country when it comes to recruiting.

even though lsu is in a talent heavy area the coach is the one who brings the players in.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 1:45 pm
Posted by 12inches
Marisa Miller's dreams
Member since Apr 2007
4693 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

why do you think Florida, USC, Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas always have good recruiting classes. While the head coach can make a difference in bringing a handful of guys in, its all about location.


This is kind of what I was getting at. While Miles seems to bring in very good classes, other programs are pulling ahead. Last year it was the defense and this year is the offense. I just hope LSU can fix the mistakes before LSU falls to far behind.
Posted by PistolaVeloce
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2009
428 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:48 pm to
How far are we really behind? Really.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8889 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:49 pm to
Once we begin to consistenly have sub top 15 recruiting classes, then I'll become nervous.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 1:50 pm
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7513 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Respectfully, Dinardo did not bring in talent anywhere close to the level of Saban.


True I remember we ran out of WR's
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3938 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Both Saban and Dinardo brought in good talent also, but one was not able to produce with it.


Do you think that LSU football started with DiNardo? If LSU's recent recruiting success has nothing to do with Miles, how do you explain the wealth of talent that left the state in the late 70s, 80s, and early 90s? LSU may be one of the better places to recruit to, but it still takes a good recruiter to achieve our recent success.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:27 pm to
Coach miles is a great recruiter..Saban is a great recruiter, i thought Dinardo was a great recrutier as well. These guys just have a different philosophy in recruiting what style of player they want.

Its hits and misses with all programs..LSU has depth at all positions..they are fine, some a little younger than others....Remember every year we love these recruiting classes and 2 and 3 years ago, we were saying these guys are must gets, and we wanted them to play asap..Well, these are the guys who are playing..College Football is a business, plain and simple ( thats why attrition is necessary) and LSU business is running pretty smooth right now.

We just surviving right now, and cant beat people 43-3 anymore..so what, we 5-1 and lost to a much more talented team in Florida, and still could have one...Guess thats what so frustrating to us..I would have taken 10-2 or 11-1 cause we gonna play with bama (more our style of team) and have a shot of a rematch come December..
Posted by Big Fat
"Fear the Hat" returns 2010
Member since Sep 2009
5404 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

That's BS...there are plenty of Dinardo's guys that are still in the NFL now...Our '01 team was mostly DiNardo's recruits.
Disagree.
quote:


Believe it or not, Coaches not named Saban can also recruit well here.

Agree.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35556 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:34 pm to
DiNardo had to work hard to establish the recruiting base in Louisiana again and got Rohan Davey, Kevin Faulk, R. Mealy, S. Peterman, Andrew Winey, Josh Reed, C. Collins, Kevin Faulk, Mark Roman and Brady James. Those guys helped get the ball rolling so we could get to the point where we could have an entire class of guys like that. It was his unwillingness to change coordinators that was his downfall. Give Miles some credit for not having the same problem.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

While Miles seems to bring in very good classes, other programs are pulling ahead.


I assume you dont mean pulling ahead in recruiting. And in all honestly, there aren't really any programs "pulling ahead" of LSU. It's pretty much the same 10-15 schools in the mix every year.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Respectfully, Dinardo did not bring in talent anywhere close to the level of Saban.


17 of the 20+ players that went pro under Saban were Dinardo recruits.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22560 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

has held LSU's football program together when many said he couldn't do it.


I'm don't think he's been around long enough to dismantle a program...yet.
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