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Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:41 am to ell_13
Did Paul confirm that he gave the steal signal? I completely checked out for about 24 hours after the game.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:43 am to ForeverEllisHugh
What about the two batters that struck out in the eighth inning with the bases loaded. The pitcher throws 87% fastballs. You know a fastball is coming. Put the freaking bat on the ball.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:48 am to DRock88
I didn't think it needed confirming. The kid stole. Was that not enough? Or are we thinking a sign was misread?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:49 am to DallasTiger45
Hit and run with a 220 hitter and to try it 3 times in a row. How arrogant and stupid
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:53 am to ell_13
Yes, wondering if a sign was misread or just had a brain freeze on the count/outs or stole on his own.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 10:54 am
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:04 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Blaming one person for a loss ignores consequences for each action in an event. You cannot lay out a timeline in the present for each action, because each has a different set of consequences that follow. There are sets of algorithmic patterns that can (and do occur) in a all things. If you say that a person should or shouldn't have done this or that--and it occurred--ignores a completely different set of circumstances that could occur afterwards. For example, had the double-steal worked, how do we know that the next pitch been hit to the pitcher, and the last out been made some other way? Or possibly-the next pitch hammered for a single and runners scored? What if the score had been tied and one of the Georgia batters hit a solo homer? Or if Marceaux had arm trouble and left the game? We cannot lay down a timeline and pick things out and say a player cost us a game (unless perhaps a thrown shoe was an integral factor), but the game progresses on a series of algorithms of which we don't have wisdom to fathom.
I don't like the outcome of the game, but I am not going to try to relive something that is dead in the past. As we expect ourselves to be treated, we need to treat others.
I don't like the outcome of the game, but I am not going to try to relive something that is dead in the past. As we expect ourselves to be treated, we need to treat others.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:04 am to DRock88
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Yes, wondering if a sign was misread or just had a brain freeze on the count/outs or stole on his own.
I am willing to bet that it was a steal to try and stay out of Milazzo hitting into a double play. It ended up backfiring but it’s not like CPM would be the only manager in baseball to make that call in that spot.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:05 am to geauxtigers33
quote:Is his groundball rate higher or lower than his K rate?
I am willing to bet that it was a steal to try and stay out of Milazzo hitting into a double play. It ended up backfiring but it’s not like CPM would be the only manager in baseball to make that call in that spot.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:08 am to ell_13
I don’t know at all and I am not going to pretend to know. I am not saying it was the right call or sticking up for him making it there. I was just saying that it was probably the call and it’s not out of the ordinary for someone to make the decision.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:13 am to geauxtigers33
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it’s not out of the ordinary for someone to make the decision.
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I am not... sticking up for him making it there
Generalizing it to a steal in a 3-2 count and saying that happens is defending it. 3-2/1-out steals do happen, of course. But they don't happen in a vacuum. It still matters who is running and who is hitting. The batter is usually a higher contact guy who is slow and likely to hit into a double play.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:23 am to geauxtigers33
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am willing to bet that it was a steal to try and stay out of Milazzo hitting into a double play.
40 K’s in 118 PA
0 double plays
Probability of striking out & hitting it into the air is far far far higher
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
The “hit and run” part of the 3-2 count hit and run is for how the base runner is supposed to get his break. On a straight steal, the runner is trying to get the perfect jump and is at risk of being picked off if the pitcher makes a good move to the base. On a hit and run, the runner makes sure the pitcher is going to the plate before he breaks. He won’t get a good jump, but he’s trusting the batter to not strike out. The fact that Morgan was easily out on that play makes me believe it was a 3-2 hit and run.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:33 am to Choupique19
Morgan? You mean Bianco right?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:40 am to Choupique19
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The “hit and run” part of the 3-2 count hit and run is for how the base runner is supposed to get his break. On a straight steal, the runner is trying to get the perfect jump and is at risk of being picked off if the pitcher makes a good move to the base. On a hit and run, the runner makes sure the pitcher is going to the plate before he breaks. He won’t get a good jump, but he’s trusting the batter to not strike out. The fact that Morgan was easily out on that play makes me believe it was a 3-2 hit and run.
You and others are using the wrong terminology.
“Hit and run” means the batter has to swing.
What happened was PM put the runners in motion. It wasn’t a straight steal in that the base runners weren’t trying to get a jump on the pitcher and advance.
At least I don’t think it was a straight steal, but it could have been and Morgan got a bad jump. But it certainly couldn’t have been a hit and run.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:41 am to Choupique19
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The “hit and run” part of the 3-2 count hit and run is for how the base runner is supposed to get his break.
So a steal
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a hit and run, the runner makes sure the pitcher is going to the plate before he breaks
Like most stolen base attempts lol
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:47 am to 3rdPart Tiger
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Fairly certain the best option is out for the year.
In SEC play, Travinski was 4/27 with 0 XBH, 14 Ks and just 3 BBs. Teams figured out ery early on that if you don't throw him fastballs, he can't hit. And his defense was atrocious
Posted on 5/27/21 at 12:01 pm to ell_13
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Morgan? You mean Bianco right?
I don’t know what I’m saying. I’m high.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 12:01 pm to lsufball19
Our inability to hit off speed this year was a huge knock on Eddie. It wasn’t just good pitchers getting us out often with off speed.
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