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re: Mike Detillier's interview on Dandy's - Coach O’s 2nd Season, Steve Ensminge, Joe Burrow,
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:51 am to cra_cra
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:51 am to cra_cra
quote:Sooo UF and A&M have equal or better talent than LSU?
Again, this season is indicative of how good our staff is. The question remains whether or not O can get the talent and depth needed to compete at the highest level.
I'm not saying Coach O did a bad job, but I'm tired of watching LSU lose to less talented teams because of a shitty offense. I care much more about fixing that than I do beating Bama.
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:51 am to Tiger Ree
It was a solid regular season. I'm not arguing otherwise. Credit where it is due.
But I'm not going to sit here and say we maximized our offensive talent. That's an insult to the players' abilities.
But I'm not going to sit here and say we maximized our offensive talent. That's an insult to the players' abilities.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:52 am to Tiger Ree
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I think Coach O and his staff really maximized talent.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:53 am to bencoleman
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If the offensive line can't block you're not going to be successful. I think Mike was spot on.
ask Archie Manning, he will tell you.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:55 am to lsu2006
quote]Inability to have a good functioning screen play by the Rice game[/quote]
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:57 am to lsu2006
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It was a solid regular season. I'm not arguing otherwise. Credit where it is due.
But I'm not going to sit here and say we maximized our offensive talent. That's an insult to the players' abilities.
Then you aren't looking at it correctly.
Ensminger breaks Offensive records at LSU when he had significant talent on O to work with.
Our RB's were not SEC level. They were good backs. Our WR's had very little experience and struggled blocking. Our OL was in disarray all season.
Yet somehow, we managed to score enough to win 9 games (and really 10) in the hardest division in the history of football.
Put Guice back there, do you think we are a different team? How about Guice and say Jarvis Landry. With just those 2 players (at their college level) we'd be 11-1 without question.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:00 am to cra_cra
[quote]O pretty much maximized the talent he had to work with on offense. Again, this season is indicative of how good our staff is. The question remains whether or not O can get the talent and depth needed to compete at the highest level. The staff, the knowledge, the organization is all in a very good place.[quote]
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:01 am to Tiger Ree
quote:Tell that to Les Miles.
Ranked #11 in the nation, New Year's Day bowl game, #4 or #3 recruiting class (depending on paid recruiting site used) coming in - what's not to hate for the Rantards?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:02 am to cra_cra
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Ensminger breaks Offensive records at LSU
Oh god, this shite again.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:03 am to cra_cra
So we need future NFL stars to field a competent offense. Got it.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:07 am to lsu2006
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So we need future NFL stars to field a competent offense. Got it.
It only LSU has La’el Collins, Trae Turner, Andrew Whitworth, Alan Faneca, and Stephen Peteman they may have scored on Alabama. At least a FG!
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:10 am to lsu2006
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So we need future NFL stars to field a competent offense. Got it.
A competent offense gets you 9-3 (10-2) in the SEC west.. so I'm not sure you understand the word competent.
Game breaker players (of which we have NONE on the offensive side of the ball), change everything.
Tell me one single game changer we have on offense.... just one?
Ask Drew Brees if having Kamara makes a difference. Or Thomas for that matter. If you don't understand this, I can't help you.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:11 am to bencoleman
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If the offensive line can't block you're not going to be successful.
In 2017 there was a mass exodus of OL once O was hired. Inexperience and depth were the issues cited. In 2018 we had both and were told talent was the issue. We are now being told the same guys who couldn't block this year will magically be good next year with the same scheme and coaches. Also that a few FR will come right in and play. Can't wait to hear "just wait till these FR get a few years under their belt" excuse next year.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:12 am to cra_cra
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A competent offense gets you 9-3 (10-2) in the SEC west.. so I'm not sure you understand the word competent.
Or a bad offense with a good defense and special teams can get you that. Which it did this year. Also, what's with the "10-2" in parentheses? We counting our close losses as wins now? Let's just call Auburn a loss then, I guess.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:14 am to Loaner1231
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It only LSU has La’el Collins, Trae Turner, Andrew Whitworth, Alan Faneca, and Stephen Peteman they may have scored on Alabama. At least a FG!
IF you want to compete at the top, you need ALL SEC players. How many did we have on Offense?
So yes, if you want to be at that level, then we need a game changer WR, RB, and at least one on the OL, along with a very good QB to be at that level.
Why is this so hard for you guys to understand? And that is why MD is saying O maximized what he had.... which is so FN true.
Now, before you call me an O fluffer, I have said all along that he has to improve the talent and the depth. Argue that all day long because that's what has to change.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:14 am to cra_cra
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Well a lot of that is because LSU took it too them and they couldn't recover mentally. So add a win to each of them because no one thought LSU would beat them.
And that's a major difference with O. When they have lost a game they should have won, they've managed to pick the team up and get them back going forward. That's truly great coaching.
Richt and Malz are not coaches have not been able to do that near as well as O
lol, clearly a joke
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:20 am to Mahootney
You know whats funny to me, everything O gets praised on Miles already did and more. " O gets the players up after a loss" so did Miles, and won a NC in a 2 loss year. O's recruiting, not as good as Miles. Neither get the most from their players because they run the same conservitive offense and play not to lose. Hell they even both promoted position coaches to coordinator positions. You can continue to keep putting lipstick on the pig, but in your heart you know how this will all turn out. Miles needed to move on and so did LSU. He did, and LSU took 3 steps back and punted.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:23 am to Tiger Ree
Pure propaganda.
As it was since 2012 w/Miles, so will it be under Orgeron. Elite talent everywhere, w/elite coaching on D and mediocre coaching on O.
When we have a kicker, we have a chance at a nice record and a NY6 bowl, but no shot at ATL.
Aleva/Orgeron have replaced the worthy goal of competing for championships with the feel good "goal" of 9 wins, and the propagandists have sold the "win total" narrative hard.
Based on the bulk of the commentary on this board, regarding "win totals", the propagandists have effectively indoctrinated most of the fan base.
This once proud program/fanbase has been brought to its knees. Its over, man.
Moving on...
As it was since 2012 w/Miles, so will it be under Orgeron. Elite talent everywhere, w/elite coaching on D and mediocre coaching on O.
When we have a kicker, we have a chance at a nice record and a NY6 bowl, but no shot at ATL.
Aleva/Orgeron have replaced the worthy goal of competing for championships with the feel good "goal" of 9 wins, and the propagandists have sold the "win total" narrative hard.
Based on the bulk of the commentary on this board, regarding "win totals", the propagandists have effectively indoctrinated most of the fan base.
This once proud program/fanbase has been brought to its knees. Its over, man.
Moving on...
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 10:27 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:23 am to cra_cra
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IF you want to compete at the top, you need ALL SEC players.
You know being selected All-SEC is a reflection largely of a player's production and not entirely their physical talent and ability right? A player with a ton of talent who isn't put in a position to succeed will not succeed and will thus almost certainly not be named to an All-SEC team.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:31 am to lsu2006
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You know being selected All-SEC is a reflection largely of a player's production and not entirely their physical talent and ability right? A player with a ton of talent who isn't put in a position to succeed will not succeed and will thus almost certainly not be named to an All-SEC team.
Thank you so clearly for showing how big a fool you are..... outstanding!!!
What current RB or WR on our team in any other program would have been All SEC?
You are totally dismissing a player's ability in that production... all of your posts do that, because you clearly do not understand the game or value the fact that some players are just better than others and that makes a HUGE difference in what can be called and how often a player touches the ball.
And you keep side stepping the question also... what current game changers do we have on offense? And do you think this matters? And do you think it matters relative to the kind of plays you can run?
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