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re: Mettenberger - By the Numbers
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:49 am to southernelite
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:49 am to southernelite
One thing that hurts his legacy — and is no fault of his own — is the fact that his two best games (home vs. 'Bama, at Georgia) both came in losses.
But A&M awaits. A win over Johhny Football will look nice alongside the yardage and TD totals. Throw in Arky and bowl wins and that'll be a nice way to wrap up the Mett Era.
But A&M awaits. A win over Johhny Football will look nice alongside the yardage and TD totals. Throw in Arky and bowl wins and that'll be a nice way to wrap up the Mett Era.
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:52 am to TigerNE
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He was brutal last season
no he wasn't. brutal is JJ in 2010, or Lee the yr he threw all the picks. or Booty and his INT issues. he was avg last yr.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:52 am to TigerNE
mett has played good but not good enough in that he was unable to produce a comeback win against georgia (last possession) or a td against bama (after obj kickoff return). when we needed him the most to get a win, he did not produce.
also, mett is working with the best wr duo in the country and a top rb.
also, mett is working with the best wr duo in the country and a top rb.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:00 am to oldschoolgreats
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mett has played good but not good enough in that he was unable to produce a comeback win against georgia (last possession)
christ. his offense scored 41 fricking points. don't give me this shite he couldn't get it done on one drive. 41 points should be good enough to win every fricking football LSU plays. just because the defense can't help him out and give him one fricking stop, doesn't mean he didn't do good enough to win.
yall have ridiculous standards for a QB these days.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:13 am to TigerNE
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What Top 10 teams are you referring to besides South Carolina last year? Auburn and A&M, teams that weren't Top 10 when we played them?
So does Ole Miss get credit for beating number 6 LSU or number 18? The ranking systems are fluid. One could argue that Auburn has improved after we beat them. However, their ranking when we played them was based off of last year.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:35 am to TigerNE
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Auburn and A&M, teams that weren't Top 10 when we played them?
It doesn't matter what they are when you play then. It matters how they are ranked at the end of the season.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:50 am to Respublica88
Mett is doing his job, so are the receivers. Our O-line sucks Donkey balls (thanks to Stud and Miles), and our defensive front is weak and our defensive back has major holes in it due to attrition and poor coaching.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:51 am to chalupa
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It doesn't matter what they are when you play then. It matters how they are ranked at the end of the season.
I respectfully disagree. So, the Auburn win has ended up being nicer than we thought at the time. The TCU win, on the other hand ... Oh, and Auburn beat Ole Miss, who beat us. And we played Georgia when they were healthy. On and on it goes. I don't care what these teams do before and after we play them. It's irrelevant to me.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:56 am to TigerNE
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He's not the only element of the program that deserves a harsh assessment, but he's the QB — it comes with the territory.
You also have to be an idiot to look at our team and think QB is even remotely the problem.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 11:57 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:57 am to Respublica88
Agreed, Mett has a NFL arm with maybe the slowest foot work of any QB in the nation. Mett's lack of sensing pressure and stepping up in the pocket is really hurting the man. Mett def needs and NFL O line to go with him.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:00 pm to TigerNE
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TigerNE
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:43 pm to koLSU86
koLSU86
I'll concede that I'm an idiot if you admit that you're a fanboy. I'm hoping at this time next year you'll be wearing a No. 8 Texans jersey. Maybe sport a little 'stache as well. I was a teenager once, too. I know it hurts when someone criticizes your favorite player.
I'll concede that I'm an idiot if you admit that you're a fanboy. I'm hoping at this time next year you'll be wearing a No. 8 Texans jersey. Maybe sport a little 'stache as well. I was a teenager once, too. I know it hurts when someone criticizes your favorite player.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:17 pm to TigerNE
If we had a defense that was not depleted by the NFL draft, this team could have been very special. In fact, it would have been the first time that we had an elite offense and defense.
But we don't have that defense and b/c we don't, Mett has to be perfect or near it in big games. That's a lot to ask and he hasn't been for a full game.
McCarron doesn't have to be perfect to win games. He just has to be competent and error-less.
I honestly believe that if you put Mett on Bama and McCarron with us, we would wish we had Mett back.
He's slow footed and kind of an intrinsically(apparent on sidelines) motivated guy. Not very vocal, but the kid loves the game and competes to win.
To change the course of history you have to have a trailblazer. Aside from a few guys in LSU history, we haven't been particularly great at putting out great QB's. I think Mett begins what I hope is the long line of very,very solid QB play.
But we don't have that defense and b/c we don't, Mett has to be perfect or near it in big games. That's a lot to ask and he hasn't been for a full game.
McCarron doesn't have to be perfect to win games. He just has to be competent and error-less.
I honestly believe that if you put Mett on Bama and McCarron with us, we would wish we had Mett back.
He's slow footed and kind of an intrinsically(apparent on sidelines) motivated guy. Not very vocal, but the kid loves the game and competes to win.
To change the course of history you have to have a trailblazer. Aside from a few guys in LSU history, we haven't been particularly great at putting out great QB's. I think Mett begins what I hope is the long line of very,very solid QB play.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:22 pm to TigerNE
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I'll concede that I'm an idiot if you admit that you're a fanboy. I'm hoping at this time next year you'll be wearing a No. 8 Texans jersey. Maybe sport a little 'stache as well. I was a teenager once, too. I know it hurts when someone criticizes your favorite player.
Nice deflection. You have absolutely no statistical or factual evidence to back up your conclusion that Mett has been "OK". You say Mett doesn't have a "signature win" (which is a foolish qualifier in the first place), then when hit with actual facts (3 wins over top 10 teams) you crawfish and say those don't count. You're too dense to realize that you actually affirmed that Mett has a signature win when you gave your definition of a top 10 win, as South Carolina was #3 when the game was played and also finished in the top 10.
Here are some statistics that are not up for debate-
65.7% completion- 22nd in the nation
2733 yards- 12th in the nation
10.8 Yards per attempt- 3rd in the nation
20 TD's- 15th in the nation
176.60 Passer Rating- 5th in the nation
I would say that no.8 has been MUCH better than "OK".
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:23 pm to TigerNE
imagine if he would have had some blocking.I felt sorry for him at the end of the Bama game. 4 plays,4 sacks! 
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:11 pm to cajunjj
I'm simply having a hard time remembering any game(s) he has pulled out for us. Kind of a big variable for a quarterback, no?
But you guys have beaten me down. I'm all in on Mett. I might take up fantasy football next year so I can put him on my roster.
All wise-assing aside, the thing I should have said from the outset is that the kid is tough. I have not questioned his "chest." He takes a shot, he gets up. Every time.
But you guys have beaten me down. I'm all in on Mett. I might take up fantasy football next year so I can put him on my roster.
All wise-assing aside, the thing I should have said from the outset is that the kid is tough. I have not questioned his "chest." He takes a shot, he gets up. Every time.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:13 pm to TigerNE
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I'm simply having a hard time remembering any game(s) he has pulled out for us. Kind of a big variable for a quarterback, no?
My issue with this is that you are using both sides of the argument to your advantage. You can't say the TCU win wasn't a good win because they suck now and say the Auburn win wasn't a good win because they weren't ranked high when we played them. Pick one or the other. Also the fact that the team lost to Alabama in 2012 and Georgia this year doesn't make his performance OK, it doesn't diminish his performance at all. Since I don't really subscribe too much to preseason rankings I'd say the big performances in his career were
2012: SC, A&M, Bama (loss)
2013: Auburn, UGA (loss)
While I agree they shouldn't put up a statue in his honor the kid has guts, is tough, and has out produced every LSU QB since JaMarcus.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:29 pm to DallasTiger45
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Here are some statistics that are not up for debate-
65.7% completion- 22nd in the nation
2733 yards- 12th in the nation
10.8 Yards per attempt- 3rd in the nation
20 TD's- 15th in the nation
176.60 Passer Rating- 5th in the nation
I would say that no.8 has been MUCH better than "OK".
How about 3rd down conversions? ...thats huge for a QB and offense in general.
Before Ole Miss he was widely considered a strong contender for the Heisman. When was the last time we could say that about a QB at LSU? And hes just "Ok"?
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:33 pm to beary25
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and has out produced every LSU QB since JaMarcus.
He's outproduced Jamarcus Russell. He has a very real chance of outproducing every QB in LSU history.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 3:37 pm to EarthwormJim
I just didn't want to get carried away so I used a time frame that you really can't argue against.
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