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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 pm to jbird7
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And are too afraid to have the conversation
What are we doing right now? This is just as bad as when politicians use this word when all they mean is "me talk, you shut up and listen."
A conversation is happening right now, but it's uncomfortable because we're disagreeing.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:57 pm to Nix to Twillie
The question was if Max should have started sooner. AandM. I just gave you my opinion. I think it played a part at the time in the coaches choice. That is my opinion.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:58 pm to themunch
Fair enough. I think that's ridiculous. That's my opinion.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:01 pm to Nix to Twillie
I absolutely think race plays a part in a whole gambit of real world situations. It should not but, unfortunately it does. The point we are at now is folks are afraid to be confronted with the choices they make due to pressure from outside sources. This has been discussed at length on this board and it's involvement between the players and the hc.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:03 pm to cajuntiger1010
I didn't particularly think Max outplayed TJ in that game, outside of the bad interception which wouldn't have saved the game anyway
We just got beat that night. It was a hard night being a Tiger fan in there
We just got beat that night. It was a hard night being a Tiger fan in there
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:05 pm to Walnut
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We just got beat that night.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:05 pm to Nix to Twillie
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A conversation is happening right now, but it's uncomfortable because we're disagreeing.
The only one acting uncomfortable and getting all triggered is you pal. Idc if you agree or disagree with me. Just don’t get how anyone can see the current climate of the world and act like that had nothing to do with it. It’s affecting everything right now. Literally everything. Max is clearly the better player and has proven to be every time he steps out on the field but yet I’m supposed to believe “Finley had a better practice” or some lame excuse like that. Give me a break.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:07 pm to themunch
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I absolutely think race plays in a whole gambit of real world situations. It should not but unfortunately it does. The point we are at now is folks are afraid to be confronted with the choices they make due to pressure from outside sources. This has been discussed at length on this board and it's involvement between the players and the hc.
I don't have a problem agreeing with this. Just saying I also have no problem believing TJ edged out Max in practice before South Carolina, and that's why he started. Occam's razor. (I admit that's probably a lazy usage of that principle here, but the definition did pop in my head).
On the coaching changes board we've seen multiple comments implying that race is playing into the DC hire, which I also find silly considering Marcus Freeman is widely considered to one of, if not the most, coveted DC candidates in college football.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:13 pm to jbird7
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“Finley had a better practice” or some lame excuse like that. Give me a break.
Before the South Carolina game, yes. Is it absolutely nuts to believe that TJ starting inspired Max to work harder and get better? LSU would not have started the worst of the 2 QB's, on purpose, just to send a message. And if you really believe that, then I can't describe it as anything else but dumb.
I agree race is forced into too many decisions today and the outside pressure involved it in is unfair and toxic, but in a game where most of the players on your team are black, and in the interest of winning games, this wasn't one of them.
Oh, look. A conversation.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:16 pm to jbird7
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Not defensive lol just surprised how y’all refuse to see the obvious.
Your obvious means Ed Orgeron, who is making $7.5M a year, has lost 2 games to horrible teams, is staring at a 1-3 start, and is forced to choose between one of two freshman to start their first college football game, and he is thinking about race relations?
And its obvious to you that he let these thoughts on race relations be a factor in that decision when his coaching future, his fricking LIVLIHOOD, not to mention tens of millions of dollars of income hangs in the balance?
This is your obvious?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:20 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Is it absolutely nuts to believe that TJ starting inspired Max to work harder and get better?
No that’s not nuts to believe. I’m just personally
not buying into that narrative, esp when max is the son of a super bowl winning QB and knows the game as well as he does.
Now let me ask you, why is it so nuts to believe that given all the racial tension that happened over the summer, especially with former players like Chaisson and Clark calling out coach O for not marching with the team in protest, to think he did this to gain more trust within his players, who like you mentioned are mostly black?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:22 pm to jbird7
I'll grant you it's not completely nuts, but it's anything but obvious...the word you used.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:28 pm to Basura Blanco
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And its obvious to you that he let these thoughts on race relations be a factor in that decision when his coaching future, his fricking LIVLIHOOD, not to mention tens of millions of dollars of income hangs in the balance?
Uh yeah esp when you have former players like Clark and chaisson calling him out for not hiring enough black people or marching with his players in protest.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:30 pm to Nix to Twillie
It’s not even remotely nuts. It’s pretty logical given the current climate the world is in right now. You literally have billion dollar industries hiring people solely off skin color instead of credentials. Politicians putting people in cabinet positions solely off their skin color, regardless of their stances on issues. You think college football is different? With race tensions as high as they’re now nobody is going to do anything that might get them well basically cancelled.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:37 pm to jbird7
Well, I have to say this exchange has not been entirely unpleasant and I'm glad we've arrived at a more civil tone. Our opinions have been made known, so all I can leave you with one final time is this:
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:39 pm to cajuntiger1010
MJ could have made a difference but A&M was better in the trenches for the first time I remember. With a lot of linemen returning on both sides LSU should whip them next year.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:45 pm to jbird7
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Uh yeah esp when you have former players like Clark and chaisson calling him
SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS vs 2 people on social media who have no say so in the evaluation of his job performance.
THIS is the obvious mountain you choose to die on?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:56 pm to Sterling Archer
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I’m sick of read shite like this. He literally went 17/21 in his FIRST start as a true freshman. I think Max brings a bit more too but to act like he only started because of race his disgusting. This shite has no place on a fan board if you are a true tiger fan
Amen
The gap isn’t even that wide
The defense improved as the year went on as well
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:57 pm to jbird7
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Uh yeah esp when you have former players like Clark and chaisson calling him out for not hiring enough black people or marching with his players in protest.
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