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re: Matt Canada: “I learned a tremendous amount from Coach O”
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:55 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:55 pm to TigerLunatik
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“First time Alabama couldn’t figure out our offense,
Our offense couldnt figure it out either. ha ha
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:03 pm to ThePaleHorse
I hated that offense, but it's hilarious to see people argue over it on here years later as if it means anything at all to what's happening now.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:20 pm to The Pirate King
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Pirate King
its amazing how posters like you insist on everyone giving O time yet you made your mind up on Canada in 1 season with a meddling HC and personnel built on a power run game only.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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its amazing how posters like you insist on everyone giving O time yet you made your mind up on Canada in 1 season with a meddling HC and personnel built on a power run game only.
Yep. His offense would never work in the SEC. You can base that assessment on the one year that he had here (well, not the games where his hands were tied). Of course, O needs time to rebuild, and the SEC is much tougher now, and he's performing much better than Miles.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:22 pm to ThePaleHorse
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Our offense couldn't figure it out either. ha ha
was not whole offense. go watch what he ran at PITT.
missed lots of things. especially the backside screen to the TE opposite jet sweep motion.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:23 pm to ThePaleHorse
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Our offense couldnt figure it out either. ha ha
that's what happens when you hire an OC and then IMMEDIATELY neuter the part of the offense that makes it your offense.
it's like hiring Mike Leach and then 3 games into the season you tell him he cant run the air raid offense.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:24 pm to Francisco de Chicora
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Yep. His offense would never work in the SEC.
same shite the football ignorant masses said when CUM brought his power spread to UF. and yes we had plenty LSU fans saying that who were clueless sadly exposing their ignorance.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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that's what happens when you hire an OC and then IMMEDIATELY neuter the part of the offense that makes it your offense.
it's like hiring Mike Leach and then 3 games into the season you tell him he cant run the air raid offense.
yep. had this exact discussion with my brother today. he only did what O allowed him to run. after awhile it limits the offense and you hit a ceiling. many other factors also played roles as we have stated ad infinitum to the masses here.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:30 pm to Francisco de Chicora
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And your "in theory" comment is ridiculous. Practically any time adversaries settle a dispute, they enter into a similar type of arrangement, which generally is beneficial to both sides.
okay? its still 'In theory' because none of us know for fact what happened, because we werent there. you take offense to factual statements for some reason, thinking they are some how disagreeing with your point. It's not.
take it easy man.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:30 pm to Francisco de Chicora
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, O needs time to rebuild
yeah he only had the 2nd most NFL draft picks in cfb in 2017. how can you expect O to beat Troy with a senior NFL qb, 2 NFL rbs(1 1st team all sec), NFL olineman,NFL wrs, NFL te and a defense littered with future NFL players.
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and he's performing much better than Miles.
please explain how losing 4 and 3 games a year is "performing much better than miles"
2 of miles' last 3 offenses shite on anything O has put out.
the only way O's tenure is labeled a success is with goalposts being moved.
when we fired miles we were..
losing to bama
losing to multiple other inferior teams
frustrated with the offense
please explain how any of those have changed.
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and the SEC is much tougher now
you must be high.
from 2010- 2015 6 of the 7 west teams had a top 10 finish and the 7th team had a 12th place finish.
miles' tenure from 2005- 2015 is the most dominant era of sec football ever
in 2017 and 2018 o has played 13 sec teams with at least 4 losses
in 2017 and 2018 Lsu is 2-5 against p5 teams that were good enough to not finish the season with 5 or more losses.
facts and shite
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:32 pm to Francisco de Chicora
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Of course, O needs time to rebuild, and the SEC is much tougher now, and he's performing much better than Miles.
Sarcasm?
Rebuild? And O has hardly moved the needle.
If the name of the game is to win titles, we were farther back in '18 than we were ever under Les (save maybe '08).
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:36 pm to AlwysATgr
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Sarcasm?
Rebuild? And O has hardly moved the needle.
If the name of the game is to win titles, we were farther back in '18 than we were ever under Les (save maybe '08).
isnt it amazing how the same type of seasons that were labeled underachieving under Miles are now considered successful?
anyone denying the moving of the goalposts is a liar or an idiot.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:38 pm to AlwysATgr
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Sarcasm?
Yes. Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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please explain how losing 4 and 3 games a year is "performing much better than miles"
You've got the wrong guy, Rick. I'm an O skeptic, but I hope I'm proven wrong. I was being facetious. Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
IMO, I think Canada looked at what he had to work with and what was in front of us, i.e., Bama, and tried to implement a scheme that would give us a chance to be competitive.
It was a 'time intensive approach. But O retarding its progress was the last thing it needed.
FTR, I don't blame O for canning Canada. O's the HC. If he wasn't comfortable with him at OC then he needed to find someone else. But hiring E . . . bad experiment that should never have happened and should have ended abruptly post '18.
It was a 'time intensive approach. But O retarding its progress was the last thing it needed.
FTR, I don't blame O for canning Canada. O's the HC. If he wasn't comfortable with him at OC then he needed to find someone else. But hiring E . . . bad experiment that should never have happened and should have ended abruptly post '18.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:42 pm to Francisco de Chicora
Well, there's a gang of posters on here that would post the same thing and be dead serious.
You'll have to forgive us.
You'll have to forgive us.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:55 pm to Francisco de Chicora
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You've got the wrong guy, Rick. I'm an O skeptic, but I hope I'm proven wrong. I was being facetious.
they really need a sarcasm font on here
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:55 pm to VolTiger13
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If LSU told what actually happened, he'd be lucky to coach HS football again.
Have anything to do with being at the Uclub?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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snt it amazing how the same type of seasons that were labeled underachieving under Miles are now considered successful?
anyone denying the moving of the goalposts is a liar or an idiot.
oh boy you did it now!
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:59 pm to AlwysATgr
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think Canada looked at what he had to work with and what was in front of us, i.e., Bama, and tried to implement a scheme that would give us a chance to be competitive.
It was a 'time intensive approach. But O retarding its progress was the last thing it needed.
when you watch his offense at Pitt you'll see 4 and 5 wr set that he just couldnt run here in the 1st year IMO.
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FTR, I don't blame O for canning Canada. O's the HC. If he wasn't comfortable with him at OC then he needed to find someone els
I dont either. he is the HC and he gets the final call. it's just disingenuous for the," O over LSU" crowd to say Canada's offense sucked after that 1st year but then demand O be given time before judgment is made.
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But hiring E . . . bad experiment that should never have happened and should have ended abruptly post '18.
O could win titles here if he hired a legit OC and got the frick out of the way. The sad part was E saying he wouldnt change anything about his 2018 offense. You have a subset of lsu fans that really believe E did a good job last year
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