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re: Many around the program – and outside of it – compare the scheme Ensminger is implementing

Posted on 3/24/18 at 10:58 am to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 10:58 am to
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And choked in the big game vs Bama in which we scored 0 points. Miles managed to score 3 FGs in two games vs. Bama
he won one of those. Doesn’t matter by how many. Once again he took LSU to the national championship game twice. Winning one. O would be lucky to just win the SEC
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23034 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:01 am to
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i want to believe *ETA: quote: The spring, the most common formations are shotgun and one-back sets, finally we're abandoning the FB


I will say I like the H-Back/FB hybrid they used a bunch last year. Foster Moreau and/or T. Carter were very dependable blockers on the edge but also can make plays in the passing game.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:12 am to
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And choked in the big game vs Bama in which we scored 0 points. Miles managed to score 3 FGs in two games vs. Bama


That's one way to look at it.

Another way to look at is he got there, after beating that same team at their stadium earlier that season.

His biggest crime was not being able to beat Saban twice in a year. Who the hell has?

Meanwhile what are the odds O ever gets to the NC? Hell what about the SEC championship?
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 11:14 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:14 am to
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you dont give herman credit for his 1st season at houston because you said," that wasnt his program", and then tout an interim tenure for O.


I actually did give credit to Hotlips. I think it was in this thread.

Some guy was crying that a new staff cannot install a new system and be successful like a staff that had been together running the same system for years.

I naturally pointed out that the only NEW staff member is the new O-line coach. But also that he had coached with members of the LSU staff previously.

I then pointed out that the entire staff had worked together at least one year and multiple years in most cases and more importantly the staff has worked with the players and knows what they are capable of.

So the poster asked a question that I apparently didn't understand. I thought he wanted an example or something in comparing new staffs to existing staffs.

Dumb me, this being an LSU board, used Les Miles/Cam Cameron as the example of an established staff with and existing system and said I would prefer the new guys at LSU all day long.

I think they then said there were other options or was mad that I misread the question.

So, the first thing I thought of at the time was your "lover boy". His first season with an entirely new staff seemed to install an offense and do pretty damn good that year.

The second season when it was an established staff with an existing system, not so much. But, yes for a first year staff that had never worked together and installed a new system with new players, it was an impressive FIRST season.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4244 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:15 am to
I love the Spring, so much optimism.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:17 am to
Such a positive thing here in my opinion yet some 80 something downvotes by the haters Won't ever be satisfied!!!

The coaching staff will be heading up to LA to visit with McVay.


I love it!
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 11:19 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:34 am to
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O was hired to sustain, not rebuild the success Miles had (O has said this himself. He knows the expectations) and that has not happened


I do not think "sustain" means what you think it means.

2013 - 10-3
2014 - 8-5
2015 - 9-3
2016 - 8-4
2017 - 9-4

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recruiting has slipped,


Recruiting has not slipped. If anything it has gotten better. Recruiting highly ranked WR's and DB's looks great on 24/7 and ESPN but it yields the results posted above.

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I just don't understand how anyone can argue that it's better, or even the same


They see the depth on the D-line. 18 linemen and Buck LB's will be on the team this summer. At times last season LSU had 6 healthy DL including the bucks. They see a QB with a quick release and strong arm. They saw the post about Slinger and Zeier. They know the O-line will be deeper in depth with a chance to be at least as good as last season and possibly better with the new players and O-line coach. Understand now?

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It's nuts. 9-4 is somehow better than 9-3 now.


If you expected a national championship last season who's fault is that?

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:38 am to
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Lildickdaddy, you can always find you in a thread sucking off Miles. He got fired moron, get over it!


I never give votes or pay attention to them. But you just got one of the very few I have ever done. I haven't read your post and am doing this based on the name-calling alone. Kudos man.

Nothing against Richmomma either, that is just a good one.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:40 am to
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Never forget that Miles once scored 0. He scored 0 in the big game with everybody watching


Okay now I have read the post.

You need to be quiet man.

I'll have you know that LSU almost crossed the 50 yard-line one time during that game. If your expectations were off the charts that is your own damn fault.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102949 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:48 am to
Easy now. Your boys Ensminger and Orgeron got shut out by Bama too in an season you've been touting as a big turn around by O.

That game plan (if you want to call it thatt) by Miles in NC game was one of the worst coaching displays I've ever seen. He literally changed nothing from the regular season game. Have to give the staff credit for getting there.
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 11:51 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:53 am to
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We should also remember that he has had nothing to do with LSU football for almost 2 yrs.


Almost 2 years means he has had something to do with the LSU team. The lack of depth on the D-line and the quality on the O-line was more than evident this season.

In an interview with the advocate, when asked if he had ever had a D-line with such poor depth Aranda's first response was a laugh before saying "No".

I don't know this personally but I get the opinion that Aranda DOES NOT laugh very much when it comes to football.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62080 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 11:55 am to
At least that was in a natty. Miles's second. We'll never sniff one with O at the helm.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 12:35 pm to
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I'll have you know that LSU almost crossed the 50 yard-line one time during that game. If your expectations were off the charts that is your own damn fault.



How many points have O's teams scored in the NC games he's been in?

I guess on the bright side, he hasn't given up any points either.
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 12:48 pm to
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So you want me to believe a team that’s spent the last decade running a slightly more complex version of a peewee offense with some of the poorest QB play in NCAA history is going to suddenly institute two of the most complex schemes in the nfl one of which is run by arguably the greatest offensive statistical QB to ever play the pro game?


I don't care what you believe. It may have been the intent of whomever wrote the article but I have no idea.

I will point out that team that ran the peewee league offense has seen changes. In case you just didn't pay attention or were in a coma last year LSU was running jet sweeps and had games where the WR's were the leading rushers and at least one game where the WR's did not catch a pass the entire game.

Oh, and LSU doesn't have to be as good as the Saints on offense. They only have to be better than the previous years. They should have a very stout defense.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 12:48 pm to
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There was a thread that had a bunch of posters knocking Eaux's intelligence. I thought it was interesting since none of them no a thing about Eaux other than what they have read on the internet.

LOL, I’ve known Ed since 1977. He’s a great guy and a very good DL coach, but he’ll never be considered scholarly.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 12:52 pm to
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All of those coaches and players are gone. New coaches and new quarterback. What those players and coaches did really has nothing to do with this upcoming year.


I find it funny that people in this thread and others say they will believe LSU will do something different on offense than they have the last decade WHEN they see it.

I guess they were all in comas last year and missed the jet sweeps.

Now that LSU has to change unless they will run sweeps again, the brilliant LSU fan doesn't think they will. Hilarious !!!

That's why I love this site !!! Free entertainment.
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 12:55 pm to
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But anyone that believes that LSU will suddenly become an offensive juggernaut to rival the success of the New Orleans Saints because “We comin” is delusional on a level that I can’t even fathom.


Anybody that believes that LSU needs to be an offensive juggernaut just like the Saints to be successful is also delusional on a level that I can't even fathom.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102949 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 1:28 pm to
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I find it funny that people in this thread and others say they will believe LSU will do something different on offense than they have the last decade WHEN they see it. 

I believe they are saying they will believe success when they see it. Obviously it's going to be different this year and I'm actually glad. I prefer the pro style. I just hope we have the coaches to do it. We won't know until September.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 2:27 pm to
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I'll have you know that LSU almost crossed the 50 yard-line one time during that game.



wrong. just like 99% of your posts.

ed orgeron isnt a good coach and his entire head coaching career proves it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47944 posts
Posted on 3/24/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Anybody that believes that LSU needs to be an offensive juggernaut just like the Saints to be successful is also delusional on a level that I can't even fathom.


anybody that think ed orgeron is qualified to run vandy's defense is delusional to the point that they have a rosy finch frick boyz tattoed around their navel.
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