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Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:38 pm to GeorgeWest
Candy standards for athletes are still higher than LSU standard for regular admission 
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:48 pm to MMauler
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Manieri has a huge advantage over Corbin -- it's called TOPS.
Our fans are so stupid this board is almost unreadable.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:53 pm to tduecen
Now do SEC records for this season & the previous 3 seasons & that's the trend jumping out to me.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:53 pm to AlwysATgr
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AlwysATgr
Mainieri vs Corbin Head-to-Head Comparison
Mainieri / Corbin (thru '20 unless otherwise noted)
SEC Seasons: 14 / 18
Overall Winning Pct: .698 / .677
SEC Winning Pct: .598 / .581
SEC Titles: 4 / 4
SEC Tournament Titles: 6 / 2
Regional Appearances: 11 / 15
Super Regional Appearances: 8 / 9
CWS Appearances: 5 / 4
CWS Runner-up: 1 / 1
CWS Champs: 1 / 2
Head-to-head Games: 10 / 20 (Includes '21)
Their tenures are comparable.
Some takeaways:
- Corbin has been at Vandy since '03. CPM at LSU since '07.
- CPM has a better SEC winning %.
- CPM has done a better job getting to Omaha. Corbin better when he gets there.
- Corbin owns CPM head-to-head by 2:1. Ouch!
- If only their first 14 seasons are included, CPM looks a little better than Corbin.
I went thru all this in haste. If someone feels I've erred, let me know and I'll correct.
This isn't exactly apples to apples. Corbin bought a Taurus and turned it into a Ferrari while PM was handed a Ferrari
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:55 pm to Gray Tiger
Honestly, Vanderbilt has an advantage with Oppotrunity Vanderbilt (the financial aid program) but quite frankly, it isn't nearly the advantage that everyone thinks it is.
The reason is that much like other schools, Vanderbilt has a "pool" that it fishes out of, and that pool doesn't necessarily overlap with everyone else.
Florida and LSU have advantages in terms of location and talent pools that are in state, in addition to programs like TOPS or HOPE-type scholarships.
Opportunity Vanderbilt helps level the playing field, but to be honest, there are some cases, in some of our more high profile players, that it really isn't even a factor. I'll explain more in my next post.
The reason is that much like other schools, Vanderbilt has a "pool" that it fishes out of, and that pool doesn't necessarily overlap with everyone else.
Florida and LSU have advantages in terms of location and talent pools that are in state, in addition to programs like TOPS or HOPE-type scholarships.
Opportunity Vanderbilt helps level the playing field, but to be honest, there are some cases, in some of our more high profile players, that it really isn't even a factor. I'll explain more in my next post.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:01 pm to TexTgrTed
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Now do SEC records for this season & the previous 3 seasons & that's the trend jumping out to me.
See tuedcen's post on p. 2.
FTR, do you mean the last 3 complete seasons which would be '17-'19?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:07 pm to AlwysATgr
No, ‘18-‘21 YTD.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:14 pm to Diamond Dore
Take Kumar Rocker and Jack Leiter, for example. Both have parents that are former professional athletes and multi-millionaires. Neither qualify for Opportunity Vanderbilt.
And let's be candid, if one of them really wanted to play in Starkville or Baton Rouge, and their parents really felt like that was the place that would prepare them best for the major leagues, do you really think $10K per year in unfunded scholarship would've made the difference? To kids that turned down 2 or even 3 million in MLB signing bonus money?
Similarly, Leiter and others came from private high schools where tuition might range from $20K to upwards of $40K per year. These families dropped between a quarter million to half a million on an education they could have received for free at a public school. Cost is not their primary concern. Many of them come from the type of families that have full 529 accounts.
It's not every player, obviously, but there are plenty that it applies to. Will Toffey chose to play baseball at Vanderbilt instead of Hockey at Yale. JJ Bleday had a brother playing at Penn and other family members who were athletes at Ivy League schools.
And let's be candid, if one of them really wanted to play in Starkville or Baton Rouge, and their parents really felt like that was the place that would prepare them best for the major leagues, do you really think $10K per year in unfunded scholarship would've made the difference? To kids that turned down 2 or even 3 million in MLB signing bonus money?
Similarly, Leiter and others came from private high schools where tuition might range from $20K to upwards of $40K per year. These families dropped between a quarter million to half a million on an education they could have received for free at a public school. Cost is not their primary concern. Many of them come from the type of families that have full 529 accounts.
It's not every player, obviously, but there are plenty that it applies to. Will Toffey chose to play baseball at Vanderbilt instead of Hockey at Yale. JJ Bleday had a brother playing at Penn and other family members who were athletes at Ivy League schools.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:31 pm to AlwysATgr
I feel to often people forget what Mainieri has accomplished here. He has been very very good, yet people act like he’s always been awful.
With all that said, it doesn’t change the state of the program and it shouldn’t give him a lifetime contract to coach the Tigers.
My hope is, at the end of this year they give him the opportunity to retire, and he’s smart enough to see the writing on the wall and he rides off into the sunset happy of his career accomplishments. I do not want to see the man fired.
With all that said, it doesn’t change the state of the program and it shouldn’t give him a lifetime contract to coach the Tigers.
My hope is, at the end of this year they give him the opportunity to retire, and he’s smart enough to see the writing on the wall and he rides off into the sunset happy of his career accomplishments. I do not want to see the man fired.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:47 pm to AlwysATgr
What have u done for me lately..... no not the song.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:13 am to TexTgrTed
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No, ‘18-‘21 YTD.
Here's overall and SEC #s:
Mainieri / Corbin
SEC Winning Pct: .500 /.892
Overall Winning Pct: .651 / .734
Note:
- This includes the '20 partial season. Not sure how these are officially handled.
- Includes '21 through 4/4/21
- I also included SEC tournament games in the SEC #s. The official websites count these among overall games, not SEC. Not sure why that's done.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 12:17 am
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:16 am to lsufball19
The past 7 seasons Vandy has been to 3 CWS title games, and appears to be on it's way to a 4th.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:55 am to TIGER62
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Vandy can offer scholly to students that meet their academic standards but do not have the money to attend. since it is offered to all students they can offer it to baseball players. thus they look for that person to get around limits!
It costs about $75,000 a year to attend the school.
thus they have the #1 & 2 projected players(pitchers) in the upcoming draft. beats topps like a drum & you can go worldwide for players!
You know Al Leiter made over $60M during his MLB career?? Like he would struggle to pay full freight for his son at Vandy? Posters on this board have gotten to full ranter dumb shite status. And, yes, Vandy has a leg up on recruits if they are reasonably academically qualified.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:54 am to AlwysATgr
I watched all three games. Corbin hands down. Corbin is a head coach, Mainieri a figure head.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:11 am to fishdoctor
Vandy definitely has a big financial aid advantage....
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:11 am to AlwysATgr
The SEC is about as close to domination as there is. Team SEC.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:15 am to geauxbrown
There just aren't that many Nick Sabans in college sports.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:30 am to AlwysATgr
PM is done, Corbin is not. That is all you really need to know. Stats no longer matter here.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:19 pm to Tiger79
Yep lost to Virginia and beat Virginia then beat Michigan.
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