re: Mainieri paraphrased: "my players are not talented"

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I find this funny.

The way Les Miles gets killed for speaking to media and basically "dodging questions" or "not saying what he means", Mainieri is getting killed for saying his players suck.

I respect him for saying it, tbh.

Maybe it will light a fire under their arse.

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I support both Les and Paul. Neither should give away info to the oposition or "throw players". They are men who are representing LSU in a VERY public position. Act with the utmost class in public forums.

These statements were rediculous. Responding to question? Please, that is his job, get better at it.

If the previous statement about being embarrased didn't light a fire , why would someone suppose these would?

Desperate times call for desperate measure I guess. I think these may backfire.

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So he thought they were good at the beginning of the year? He misjudged his perceived talent.....don't get the problem there. He's admitted the mistake.

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He was calling this a CWS team after about 20 games.


That's a pretty nice sample size to misjudged perceived talent, dont you think?

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You're really throwing Hanover in the your pool of "talent deficiency pool"?

Rantard

He has played since a true freshmen.

Batted .321 as a freshmen.
Batted .332 as a sophomore made all SEC tourney team.
He's batting .302 as a junior in an obvious slumping team.

He's had a few errors this year at 3rd, but he's also saved their arse with a great arm over there.

But to say he's one of the guys recruited that hasn't been a solid talent for LSU is just being ignorant.

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eh...the more you look at the stats the more noticeable Hanover's struggles are. He has one of the lowest fielding percentages on the team and his OPS is terrible althought Ross's OPS is unbelievably low.

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so many young pitcher throwing mid 90's? uh, only two on this team. is that "many"? one more than last year?

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Eades, Gausman, Tyler Jones. McCune can hit low 90s on occasion.

Dykstra throws pretty hard as well.

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nola has a higher b.a. now than then. hanover is starter now vs bench player then.

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Nola hit .320 last year, he is hitting .295 this year. Who cares what he hit as a Frosh. He made 10 errors last year, and already has 13 this year.

hanover started 53 games as a Freshman. Thats 85% of the games we played that year. Wasn't a bench player. He has 5 Extra base hits all this year. 5. A guy PM pegged as one of our top 2-3 hitters.

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so many young pitcher throwing mid 90's? uh, only two on this team. is that "many"? one more than last year?

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Seriosuly what team are you watching?

Pitchers who can throw in the 90s: Where did I say mid 90s??

Peterson 1st year
Gausman 1st year (His first game I remember him hitting 98mph)
Bradshaw
Bourgeois
Broussard 1st year
Eades 1st year
McCune 1st year
Jones 1st year
Rumbelow 1st year
Alsup


I dont recall ANY LSU team to have 7 new comers with arms like that.

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i go with 2007.

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Huh?? Do you follow baseball?

Mahtook was a frosh in the 2008-2009 season as was Hanover.


But WAY to make my point.. The last time LSU had that type of talent WE WON THE CWS!

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maybe you are right on sanchez? grewe, he was an assistant on c.w.s. team at n.d., not sure he is all that bad.

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Uhh Grewe was not a pitching coach anywhere prior to LSU.

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I don't recall anyone saying that PM needs to be fired (I know I didn't). AAMOF, I've read posts that state frustration but that they don't think he should be fired. You're grasping at straws and the "good" to come out of it that you've stated is laughable.

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Let's break this down, shall we?

I didn't say that rantards called for him to be fired IN THIS THREAD, but alot of these idiots have done so elsewhere on TD (no link availible because I do not spend enough time on the tuberwebs). I stated that the rantards who are already foaming at the mouth to get rid of him are running with the comment to bolster their position. What's that you say? You didn't and have never called for his job this season, how very nice. Chocolate chip or Oatmeal?

I'm grasping at straws and the "good" to come out of it is laughable? Well yes sherlock, it most certainly is. That's exactly why I said that there ISN'T ANY GOOD, and used terms like "if you have to label it". Good lord you people are illiterate, foolish, dumb and ignorant all rolled into one corndog.

My position, stated as clearly as possible is this.

PM did nothing wrong. He was asked a direct question, and he gave an honest, truthful, direct answer. Some of you wanted him to dodge the question or flat out lie to protect players feelings. I think that's bullshite. We're talking about fully grown, mature athletes. These young men (unlike yourself and a few others in this thread) should be more than capable of handling a factual, logical and reasonable statement made by their headcoach.

If you think your team is going to quit because of this statement, you have much, much, MUCH bigger problems in the club house my friend, you've got a bench full of pansies.

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Do you really think that HS pitchers are going to come in here and dominate? For Real???

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They need to get some Junior transfers to shore this up and give these Freshmen some time to develop. They hung their hat on those 3 big guys and got burned.

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do you even realize that those "big three" were HS recruits....the ones that you said would have us in Omaha this year?

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Eades, Gausman, Tyler Jones. McCune can hit low 90s on occasion.

Dykstra throws pretty hard as well.

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well, if we are talking low 90's, then just about every lsu team as had many pitchers pitching low 90s.

last year, a.r., ross, joey b., alsup off the top of my head.

you had coleman, a.r., ross, cain, off the top of my head.

paul bird, oge, mcdonald, ainsworth, coogan, laxton, curtis l, guthrie, wilson, green, bradford, hodges, antonini, ect could all hit 90. that's off the top of my head.

that's not some new accomplishment to have several pitchers hit 90 in college.

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Nola hit .320 last year, he is hitting .295 this year. Who cares what he hit as a Frosh. He made 10 errors last year, and already has 13 this year.

hanover started 53 games as a Freshman. Thats 85% of the games we played that year. Wasn't a bench player. He has 5 Extra base hits all this year. 5. A guy PM pegged as one of our top 2-3 hitters.

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the average may have dipped a little due to his development or the development in college baseball switching to new bats? i bet you check ALL players and their offensive stats dropped as a result over all.

once nola was moved to short and d.j. to second, d.h took over at third. hanover was a bench player.

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that's not some new accomplishment to have several pitchers hit 90 in college.

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I have been watching LSU baseball for a long time and I have never seen a team with 7 new pitchers throwing in the 90s.. Especially with the size these guys have.

Find me an LSU roster with 10 pitchers throwing in the 90s..

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Throwing in the low 90s means almost zilch in college baseball if you cant locate your pitches...pretty overrated

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I agree... But throwing in the 90s is a talent.. which is what is being discussed.. A pitcher can be taught to locate their pitches via a quality pitching coach.. Something LSU does not have..

The talent is there the coaching is not.