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re: Mainieri may be ending his career like Les Miles

Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Winning in Omaha is the standard the LSU head baseball coach is judged. Period.


Omaha? This program has trouble figuring out if they should turn left or right on nicholson to go in the direction of Omaha
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Mainieri and Miles are one of the same.
Not really Ameritrade changed baseball and Spread changed football.
One of the coaches you mention tried to evolve with the landscape.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:35 pm to
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You are the only one that mentions this at all.
good grief i just pointed out that 2 people IN THIS THREAD agreed that national seeds are not good enough for elite programs like lsu

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Why didn't we receive our honorary seed in 2010?
because the panel didn't THINK lsu deserved it. i emphasized the word THINK because that's how it works. a team's record doesn't DICTATE how seeding is done. therefore, it is NOT an accomplishment. i don't care if i'm the only person in the world who recognizes this. it's facile, objective reasoning.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83011 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:41 pm to
Making the ncaa tourney in basketball isnt an achievement for lsu basketball, is it? Winning the bcs championship in college football isnt an achievement?
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:48 pm to
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because the panel didn't THINK lsu deserved it.


But why? If you don't really have to earn it, they could just give it to LSU. We would generate money from hosting, instead of UCLA, where five people showed up to watch the games.

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A teams record doesn't DICTATE how seeding is done


Great! So we should still host this year! Record doesn't mean shite!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134885 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:53 pm to
Projected attendance at regional locations hasn't been a qualfying factor to host for almost 10 years.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:54 pm to
That's my point
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134885 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:00 pm to
Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. My bad.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61540 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:04 pm to
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After LSU baseball's 2 of 3 blowout losses to Kentucky, yes Kentucky,


ahhhhh, Kentucky is straight raking. We were lucky to get one.

Now if we lose to Bama, that would be bad.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:04 pm to
Please, Please, PLEASE stop trying to compare Football to Baseball. In no way, shape or form are the two related. Period.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9100 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:28 pm to
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phasized the word THINK because that's how it works. a team's record doesn't DICTATE how seeding is done. therefore, it is NOT an accomplishment. i don't care if i'm the only person in the world who recognizes this. it's facile, objective reasoning.



A teams conference record weighs heavily on seeding. RPI weighs heavily on seeding which record helps to improve. You couldn't be more wrong.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:52 pm to
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Now if we lose to Bama, that would be bad.


Now we're down to as LSU basball fans hoping LSU doesn't lose to the really shitty teams. LSU sucks right now in baseball, this year isn't going to get any better.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 5:28 pm to
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Making the ncaa tourney in basketball isnt an achievement for lsu basketball
not a valid analogy because hosting (national seeds) is not a part of the basketball process. you people keep hanging on to hosting a super as an accomplishment and it's not.

getting a certain seed in the tourney is absolutely NOT an accomplishment. even making the tourney is subjective and often controversial. winning a tourney game is absolutely an accomplishment and that is the standard that elite programs measure themselves by. not what seed they got.

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Winning the bcs championship in college football isnt an achievement?
again, not analogous and even that has caveats. hence the reason why the bcs was scrapped for the playoff.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 5:34 pm to
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If you don't really have to earn it
that's just it, no one "earns" it. it is given based on a subjective observation of regular season record. why are we talking about regular season record as the measuring stick for the premier program in a playoff sport? it's just dumb.

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generate money from hosting
you realize this is not a part of winning and losing right? being a host doesn't automatically get you in to the cws.

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Record doesn't mean shite!
the obligatory strawman. i said it doesn't dictate it. it does have an indirect bearing. there is an obvious and clear difference. if you don't directly control the outcome, then you didn't accomplish it. winning at the cws is something coaches directly control. yet, we've gone on and on for two weeks praising mainieri for being voted a national seed because he racked up some regular season wins. is that the best we've got? is that maineiri's best claim right now?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 5:36 pm to
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A teams conference record weighs heavily on seeding
"weighs heavily" meaning doesn't dictate like i've been saying all along

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RPI weighs heavily
ditto

and then you say this

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You couldn't be more wrong


when you're agreeing with what i've said.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:49 am to
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Omaha? This program has trouble figuring out if they should turn left or right on nicholson to go in the direction of Omaha


This baseball team has trouble finding the bathroom, they keep crapping on the field.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:29 am to
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Please, Please, PLEASE stop trying to compare Football to Baseball. In no way, shape or form are the two related.


Well, as of right now they both suck, so there's that.
Posted by Gerry B Laval
Member since Oct 2016
6 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:32 am to
There is only one person whose career at LSU should end ASAP....
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
6817 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:56 am to
Mainieri has literally admitted to coasting before. He said he got lazy after the national championship. What makes you think he won't do it again?
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:13 am to
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Mainieri has literally admitted to coasting before. He said he got lazy after the national championship.


It's not a stretch to say the end of both Mainieri and Miles careers resemble each other.
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